But I still insist that I used to be able to flow text around an embedded picture.

I am sorry, but this has NEVER been possible in WebPlus without manual intervention. As GB has suggested, you must have taken a different route. The help file cannot help you with a feature that has never existed in the software!

In my naivety as a novice web designer way back when, I did think at first that this was an oversight in WebPlus and lobbied for it when I was a member of the closed beta testing team, but I have since come to realise that there were and remain very good reasons for not implementing it, and they are related to the way that HTML works. Because of being a beta tester and from the many websites I built with WebPlus (for myself and for clients), I knew the software pretty intimately. I am afraid you are chasing shadows if you continue to believe that WebPlus can do this.

But I still insist that I used to be able to flow text around an embedded picture.

Perhaps you were using PagePlus and Publishing as HTML

Ali wrote:

The only way to do [text wrap] is manually by eye.

What she said! And as Andrew has pointed out:

TryMeadowWeaver wrote:

Text reflows based on screen size, browser, font rendering and user settings, so what you see in the editor is always a best-case preview.

You can’t possibly cover all bases, but at a minimum you should view your web pages in Safari, Firefox, and a Chromium-based browser, so that you can compare the different handling by the main browser engines (WebKit, Gecko, and Blink, respectively). Safari for Windows hasn’t been updated in very many years, so it probably isn’t worth the bother, but it’s the default browser on Apple devices.

Thanks. During a project I frequently view it in Firefox to see how it looks in a browser. And I when I finish a project, I also look at it in Microsoft Edge, and seldom find significant differences.

But I still insist that I used to be able to flow text around an embedded picture. I have several instances on similar past pages. But my senile brain can't remember how it was done. And HELP is no help.

Ali wrote

It would be nice if the OP responded to all replies. There's not much point in taking time to write a reply if they cherry pick the posts they read and/or just move on to another query.

1. Exactly. Has the column issue been resolved?

2. Surely the simplest way on his particular text and image issue is to place the image top left on a panel. Small text frame next to the image with the Bothand. Text frame underneath the image for all the other text.

The only way to do [text wrap] is manually by eye.

What she said! And as Andrew has pointed out:

You can’t possibly cover all bases, but at a minimum you should view your web pages in Safari, Firefox, and a Chromium-based browser, so that you can compare the different handling by the main browser engines (WebKit, Gecko, and Blink, respectively). Safari for Windows hasn’t been updated in very many years, so it probably isn’t worth the bother, but Safari is the default browser on Apple devices.

The BothAnd spelling is an idiosyncrasy of my philosophical blog. The Either-Or and Either/Or discrepancy is a result of two operations separated by an interval of time. The body text was copied and pasted from a separate page.

Since you describe yourself as “sort of perfectionist”, I’d have thought you’d strive for consistency in your terminological choices. If you want to retain the BothAnd style, I would recommend changing both Either-Or and Either/Or to EitherOr.

Any suggestions for reminding this "old dog", and amateur WP user, of how to wrap text around a picture?

I am sure you'll just ignore this, as you have ignored all of my posts so far in this thread, but there is and never was a text wrap option in WebPlus. The only way to do it is manually by eye.

So to answer your question directly, there isn’t really a cheap trick that makes HTML behave like print-style WYSIWYG. The closest you can get is avoiding justification, keeping comfortable line lengths, and accepting some reflow as inevitable. Anything beyond that needs more modern layout control than WebPlus can provide.

Thanks, that summarizes what I have learned the hard way over many years. I started long ago with PagePlus, and soon found that WebPlus had significant limitations. But, because I'm sort of perfectionist, I work long & hard to fix what some might consider to be minor problems. I am a retired Architect, visually & proportionally oriented, so there's that. But, too old to invest time & money in new software.

I think having the heading centre-aligned with the picture (as in the first example) looks better, but the blank line before ‘I coined the term’ (as in the second example) is also needed.

On a stylistic note, why do you have ‘Either-Or’ in the heading but ‘Either/Or’ in the body text, and why have you used the camel-case form ‘BothAnd’ (instead of ‘Both-And’ or ‘Both/And’ to match one or the other of the above)?

The illustrations are just two of several attempts to make text flow around the picture. I have forgotten how I used to do it, so these both show imperfect results. If I can find a way to make text flow around the image, I'll then deal with alignment of the title.

I started with PagePlus many years ago, and later migrated to WebPlus. Since my webpages are mostly for my own private use, and I don't get paid for doing this, and I only do a new blog post on occasion, I've never been forced to learn much about how WP8 works "under the hood". And, yes, I am painfully aware of the limitations of HTML, but I still strive to emulate printed text, for my own satisfaction. I am my own editor.

The BothAnd spelling is an idiosyncrasy of my philosophical blog. The Either-Or and Either/Or discrepancy is a result of two operations separated by an interval of time. The body text was copied and pasted from a separate page.

Any suggestions for reminding this "old dog", and amateur WP user, of how to wrap text around a picture?

I don't see anything in WWB that addresses autoflow, however.

I asked Pablo (WWB developer) about this a year ago and his response was similar to MeadowWeaver's above in that HTML and text flow, etc. are at odds. I don't believe he has any plans on addressing this.

As I have said (three times now), a web page is not a magazine page, and should be handled differently. Once you get into this mindset, you save yourself a lot of angst.

I don't see anything in WWB that addresses autoflow, however.

<img src="yourimage.jpg" style="float:left; margin:10px;">

True WYSIWYG and HTML have always been slightly at odds. Text reflows based on screen size, browser, font rendering and user settings, so what you see in the editor is always a best-case preview. Justified text is especially fragile because browsers don’t handle spacing and hyphenation like print tools do.

On top of that, WebPlus predates a lot of modern CSS layout tools. Things like Flexbox, Grid, fluid containers and responsive typography give newer systems much better control over flow and spacing but WebPlus largely relies on fixed boxes and older layout models.

PagePlus felt more “print-like”, WebPlus aimed closer to real web output, but without today’s layout tools there was always a gap.

So to answer your question directly, there isn’t really a cheap trick that makes HTML behave like print-style WYSIWYG. The closest you can get is avoiding justification, keeping comfortable line lengths, and accepting some reflow as inevitable. Anything beyond that needs more modern layout control than WebPlus can provide.

I view this forum as a two way discussion

Any forum thread should consist of a discussion between two or more parties, unless one person is talking to themselves! Otherwise you might as well not bother posting at all.

The OP is self-described as “an 80 year old dog, not inclined to learn new tricks”, which on the face of it seems to rule out a “think outside the box” approach.