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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Upload Takes 10 Minutes At Remote Manifest Update Stage]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hi all</p><p>Just as a point of interest, I did initially get speedier completion of the uploaded page, but since doing a full upload of the site, it has reverted to taking 10 minutes again.<br />It would seem that there is still some &#039;memory&#039; in there of the various previous uploads that originally caused the problem.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Bob Keen]]></name>
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			<updated>2023-08-31T09:10:01Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Upload Takes 10 Minutes At Remote Manifest Update Stage]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Alfred. I would not necessarily have expected you to get back to me yesterday as I am sure you have other things to do besides staring at the forum waiting for people like me to pose questions. I am grateful for any response, however long it takes.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Bob Keen]]></name>
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			<updated>2022-11-11T11:49:35Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Upload Takes 10 Minutes At Remote Manifest Update Stage]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Sorry I didn’t get back to you yesterday, Bob. As you surmised, renaming WebPlusDb.txt will force WebPlus to create a new file at the next upload attempt. It doesn’t matter whether the file has been renamed to ‘WebPlus.old’, ‘WebPlus.old.txt’ or ‘WebPlus.txt.old’ as long as you can identify it if necessary.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Alfred]]></name>
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			<updated>2022-11-11T09:40:30Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hi Alfred</p><p>I have managed to change the extension to &#039;.old&#039; in the cpanel as that had an option to rename the file. However, when I enter Maintain website in WebPlus, the file still shows as &#039;.txt&#039;. Does this mean that when I upload, a new .txt file will be created which is empty? I assume it would.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Bob Keen]]></name>
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			<updated>2022-11-10T07:50:02Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Upload Takes 10 Minutes At Remote Manifest Update Stage]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Bob Keen wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>The problem that I hit was finding a way to amend the WebPlusDb.txt file. I tried to change it in the Maintain file section but it would not permit me to amend the file extension. I just want to avoid a 10 minute plus wait every time I upload even the smallest file.</p><p>I hope that explains it.</p></blockquote></div><p>Thanks, Bob. You’ve explained it very clearly!</p><p>If ‘Maintain Website’ won’t let you do it (for whatever reason) you’ll have to resort to using the file manager in your hosting control panel, or a third-party utility such as FileZilla.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Alfred]]></name>
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			<updated>2022-11-09T18:37:43Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Upload Takes 10 Minutes At Remote Manifest Update Stage]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Alfred wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I’m not sure what you mean, Bob. If you choose to do a full upload, there’s no need for the FTP uploader to work out what needs updating.</p></blockquote></div><p>What I want to achieve Alfred is to prevent the time it is taking for the remote manifest to update each time I upload something. GWYNDY suggested amending the WebPlusDb.txt file to&nbsp; WebPlusDb.Old in order that webplus would not have to search through lots of previous files to do the update. The downside he said was that the next upload would effectively be a full upload, but the new WebPlusDb.txt file would be empty and therefore update faster.</p><p>The problem that I hit was finding a way to amend the WebPlusDb.txt file. I tried to change it in the Maintain file section but it would not permit me to amend the file extension. I just want to avoid a 10 minute plus wait every time I upload even the smallest file.</p><p>I hope that explains it.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Bob Keen]]></name>
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			<updated>2022-11-09T15:37:48Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Upload Takes 10 Minutes At Remote Manifest Update Stage]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I’m not sure what you mean, Bob. If you choose to do a full upload, there’s no need for the FTP uploader to work out what needs updating.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Alfred]]></name>
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			<updated>2022-11-09T14:59:21Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Upload Takes 10 Minutes At Remote Manifest Update Stage]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>In that case Alfred, could I just delete the contents of the manifest folder, do a full upload, and therefore speed up future updating of the manifest?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Bob Keen]]></name>
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			<updated>2022-11-09T14:18:38Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Upload Takes 10 Minutes At Remote Manifest Update Stage]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>The remote manifest file allows the FTP uploader in WebPlus to work out what it needs to do for an incremental update. If you rename or delete the manifest then the uploader won’t have the necessary information for an incremental update, so it will simply do a full upload instead.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Alfred]]></name>
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			<updated>2022-11-09T13:49:50Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Upload Takes 10 Minutes At Remote Manifest Update Stage]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>The remote manifest file is shown at the foot of the window in Maintain Website. I have attempted to amend the file extension but it will not do it. Before I do anything that might be reckless (given my lack of knowledge on these things) would it work if I deleted the entire file and then replace it with the &#039;Old&#039; extension version?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Bob Keen]]></name>
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			<updated>2022-11-09T08:13:41Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Alfred.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Bob Keen]]></name>
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			<updated>2022-11-07T16:27:16Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Bob Keen wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>How do I rename this file? Is it simply a case of going into Maintain Site and then changing the file name in the tree that appears?</p></blockquote></div><p>Yes, that should do the trick.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2022-11-07T15:04:15Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Upload Takes 10 Minutes At Remote Manifest Update Stage]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>How do I rename this file? Is it simply a case of going into Maintain Site and then changing the file name in the tree that appears?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Bob Keen]]></name>
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			<updated>2022-11-07T11:03:32Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Upload Takes 10 Minutes At Remote Manifest Update Stage]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>On your host server you will see a file named WebPlusDb.txt. My understanding is that WP uses this file to decide which files need uploading when you update (incremental update) or add a new page to your site. Over time this file seems to become somewhat bloated - when I looked at mine a few days ago it was something like 14Mb - and the update becomes ever more time consuming. My workaround is to periodically rename WebPlusDb.txt as WebPlusDb.old. (This is a backup in case anything goes wrong.) </p><p>WebPlusDb.txt no longer exists on the server so WP rebuilds it progressively as you make changes or additions to your site. My current manifest file size is just over 800 bytes as I&#039;ve only made a few changes to the website. The downside is that an incremental update will effectively be a full update first time round but the gain is that the manifest update is almost instantaneous.</p><p>Hope this helps.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Gwyndy]]></name>
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			<updated>2022-10-03T17:42:10Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Since there is no option but to do it (either immediately or later) I will continue to do as I have, which is to leave it to do it and that way I know it&#039;s been done. I have never been one to put off to tomorrow what I can do today as I am likely to forget. I find it reassuring to have got a task out of the way where I don&#039;t have to worry about it again.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Bob Keen]]></name>
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			<updated>2022-09-12T06:38:32Z</updated>
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