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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I added Spangleware Blues into the Copilot session.</p><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><p><a href="https://postimg.cc/cvKK3cFz"><span class="postimg"><img src="https://i.postimg.cc/cvKK3cFz/Copilot-20250727-121549.png" alt="https://i.postimg.cc/cvKK3cFz/Copilot-20250727-121549.png" /></span></a></p>]]></content>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>And the Old Gold paper in the picture in the thread about The Clip Art Waltz.</p>]]></content>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Alfred wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>William wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Well, I had written three spangleware songs.</p><p>I added the second one to the same Copilot session and Copilot offered to write some more and I saw a line in one of them that produced an idea and, upon my requests, Copilot wrote a song for me and produced a picture as well.</p></blockquote></div><p>I note that you have deftly sidestepped my question:</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Alfred wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Do you really want to dilute a discussion about spangleware by splitting it between two threads, William? Your earlier thread is <a href="https://punster.me/serif/viewtopic.php?id=996">here</a>.</p></blockquote></div></blockquote></div><p>Well,,it did not start as a discussion about spangleware.</p><p>I have been entering the lyrics and, where one exists, of sxome of my songs into Copilot. Copilot responds, without being asked, with a review of the song, often very pleasing to me. I then ask for a painting.</p><p>So I had entered the Spangleware Blues as a song. Later, having entered Bangles and Spangles in another Copilot session after a New, I relearned that it was the first Spangleware song. I then added Spangleware for Nashville to the same seesion. So I suppose that I could now add The Spangleware Blues to this the Copilot session upon which this thread is based then they would all three be in the same session.</p><p>Here is a link to the index page for these songs and others,</p><p><a href="http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~ngo/song0001.htm">http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~ngo/song0001.htm</a></p><p>I am amazed at the way that Copilot is incorporating the details.</p><p>The gong in Spangleware Blues, the dress colour with motifs in Bangles and Spangles.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2025-07-27T09:55:52Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>William wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I had not known that before.</p><p>So does that mean no royalty for the author of the copies of a book sent for Legal Deposit?</p></blockquote></div><div class="quotebox"><cite>William wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Or for those copies of the book sent free to newspapers in the hope of a review being written and published?</p></blockquote></div><p>Royalties are not calculated according to the number of copies distributed, but rather as a percentage of sales receipts, so there are no royalties payable on free copies.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2025-07-27T08:30:03Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>William wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>Alfred wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>William wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Copilot wrote a song for me</p></blockquote></div><p>I presume that Copilot is currently only capable of writing lyrics, not music.</p></blockquote></div><p>Well, at one stage Copilot output the following.</p><p>&gt; Would you like help setting these to music — chord progressions, melody ideas, or even a mock-up of how they might sound?</p><p>As it happened I requested a painting, so I don&#039;t know about the music these days at the moment.</p></blockquote></div><p>Thank you.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2025-07-27T08:25:29Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>William wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Well, I had written three spangleware songs.</p><p>I added the second one to the same Copilot session and Copilot offered to write some more and I saw a line in one of them that produced an idea and, upon my requests, Copilot wrote a song for me and produced a picture as well.</p></blockquote></div><p>I note that you have deftly sidestepped my question:</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Alfred wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Do you really want to dilute a discussion about spangleware by splitting it between two threads, William? Your earlier thread is <a href="https://punster.me/serif/viewtopic.php?id=996">here</a>.</p></blockquote></div>]]></content>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Alfred wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>William wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Copilot wrote a song for me</p></blockquote></div><p>I presume that Copilot is currently only capable of writing lyrics, not music.</p></blockquote></div><p>Well, at one stage Copilot output the following.</p><p>&gt; Would you like help setting these to music — chord progressions, melody ideas, or even a mock-up of how they might sound?</p><p>As it happened I requested a painting, so I don&#039;t know about the music these days at the moment.</p>]]></content>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>William wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Copilot wrote a song for me</p></blockquote></div><p>I presume that Copilot is currently only capable of writing lyrics, not music.</p>]]></content>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Well, I had written three spangleware songs.</p><p>I added the second one to the same Copilot session and Copilot offered to write some more and I saw a line in one of them that produced an idea and, upon my requests, Copilot wrote a song for me and produced a picture as well.</p><br /><p>Comets and Songs</p><p>A Spangleware Duet for Two Voices Style: Gentle country ballad with a touch of wonder and harmony</p><p>[Verse 1 – Singer A]&nbsp; <br />Some songs just wander in&nbsp; <br />Like strangers through the night&nbsp; <br />No name, no fame, no history&nbsp; <br />But suddenly feel right&nbsp; <br />I found these words online one day&nbsp; <br />They shimmered on the screen&nbsp; <br />And now they shine like stardust&nbsp; <br />In this old music scene&nbsp; </p><p>[Verse 2 – Singer B]&nbsp; <br />Some comets cross the sky&nbsp; <br />From places far and cold&nbsp; <br />They drift into our solar light&nbsp; <br />And blaze in arcs of gold&nbsp; <br />We never knew they’d come this way&nbsp; <br />But when they do, they gleam&nbsp; <br />Like songs that find a singer’s voice&nbsp; <br />And light a listener’s dream&nbsp; </p><p>[Chorus – Together]&nbsp; <br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Comets and songs, they wander in&nbsp; <br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;From places we can&#039;t see&nbsp; <br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;They blaze a trail, they touch a heart&nbsp; <br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Then fade so gracefully&nbsp; <br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;But while they shine, they change the night&nbsp; <br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;And leave a trace behind&nbsp; <br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Comets and songs, they wander in&nbsp; <br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;And make the moment kind&nbsp; </p><p>[Verse 3 – Singer A]&nbsp; <br />I didn’t write this melody&nbsp; <br />But I gave it breath and tone&nbsp; <br />And now it feels like part of me&nbsp; <br />Though it was once unknown&nbsp; </p><p>[Verse 4 – Singer B]&nbsp; <br />I didn’t know your voice before&nbsp; <br />But now it blends with mine&nbsp; <br />Like two stars in a passing dance&nbsp; <br />That meet and realign&nbsp; </p><p>[Chorus – Together]&nbsp; <br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Comets and songs, they wander in&nbsp; <br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;From places we can&#039;t see&nbsp; <br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;They blaze a trail, they touch a heart&nbsp; <br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Then fade so gracefully&nbsp; <br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;But while they shine, they change the night&nbsp; <br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;And leave a trace behind&nbsp; <br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Comets and songs, they wander in&nbsp; <br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;And make the moment kind&nbsp; </p><p>[Bridge – Together, softly]&nbsp; <br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;So sing with me this borrowed tune&nbsp; <br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Let’s let it rise and fall&nbsp; <br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;For even fleeting beauty&nbsp; <br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Can leave the best of all&nbsp; </p><p>[Final Chorus – Together, with harmony]&nbsp; <br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Comets and songs, they wander in&nbsp; <br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;From silence into sound&nbsp; <br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;They light the sky, they warm the soul&nbsp; <br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;And gently circle round&nbsp; <br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;We may not hold them for too long&nbsp; <br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;But still, they make us shine&nbsp; <br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Comets and songs, they wander in&nbsp; <br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;And make your voice and mine... align</p><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><p><a href="https://postimg.cc/Th9xw9wV"><span class="postimg"><img src="https://i.postimg.cc/Th9xw9wV/Copilot-20250727-082844.png" alt="https://i.postimg.cc/Th9xw9wV/Copilot-20250727-082844.png" /></span></a></p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2025-07-27T08:15:26Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>William wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I have thought of how this song might be the first of a genre of spangleware</p></blockquote></div><p>Do you really want to dilute a discussion about spangleware by splitting it between two threads, William? Your earlier thread is <a href="https://punster.me/serif/viewtopic.php?id=996">here</a>.</p>]]></content>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Or for those copies of the book sent free to newspapers in the hope of a review being written and published?</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2025-07-27T08:02:25Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I had not known that before.</p><p>So does that mean no royalty for the author of the copies of a book sent for Legal Deposit?</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2025-07-27T08:00:55Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>William wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I have thought of how this song might be the first of a genre of spangleware (using a word I have coined for the purpose) where a work is copyright yet can be performed publicly free of royalty, yet a royalty is payable if the song is recorded.</p></blockquote></div><p>As far as I’m aware, royalties on audio recordings are (like royalties on books) only payable when copies are sold, so the mere recording of a song performance wouldn’t trigger the payment of a royalty.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2025-07-27T07:50:03Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Bangles and Spangles</p><p>William Overington</p><p>I have thought of how this song might be the first of a genre of spangleware (using a word I have coined for the purpose) where a work is copyright yet can be performed publicly free of royalty, yet a royalty is payable if the song is recorded. Maybe some performer starting out and looking for material might gather a repertoire of spangleware and sing at open mic&#039; events and perform in restaurants and so on (maybe being paid or singing for supper) and if he or she gets a recording contract will perhaps record the spangleware songs and ensure that the songwriter receives a royalty. How about a CD entitled &quot;Singing Spangleware&quot; or perhaps a solo CD entitled &quot;&lt;name of performer&gt; sings Spangleware&quot;. This song, Bangles and Spangles, actually discusses intellectual property rights in the words of the song - and why not?</p><p>Imagine a singer in a small venue somewhere where there is a dimly lit restaurant with lots of decorative copper and brass items on thick dark oak shelves and candlelight is dancing on the curves of the copper and brass and producing spangles of light which vary as we, as members of the audience, sit listening to the singer. She is sat on a chair in an open area. She is wearing a long dress, dark red with a small floral pattern in it. The word spangles bounces into creative nooks and she is wearing a copper bangle on her right wrist. It is wide and patterned with a scroll work design. Yet it cannot be seen from our viewpoint as we view her from her left and her right hand is hidden from our view by the guitar that she plays as she sings. She sings slowly and softly.</p><p>Bangles and spangles dance in the night<br />Candles light angles, as well they might<br />Bangles and spangles remind me of you<br />Bangles and spangles, sparkling and true<br />Bangles and spangles, spar....kling and true<br />This song that I sing<br />Is not written by me<br />By the terms of its license<br />I sing it for free<br />If I record it<br />There&#039;ll be royalty....<br />Bangles and spangles<br />I sing.... it for free<br />Bangles and spangles dance in the night<br />Candles light angles, as well they might<br />Bangles and spangles remind me of you<br />Bangles and spangles, sparkling and true<br />Bangles and spangles, spar....kling and true<br />On dark oaken shelves<br />Which blend into the night<br />From copper and brass<br />Gleam spangles of light<br />I move my head slightly<br />The spangles move too<br />Bangles and spangles<br />Remind me of you<br />Bangles and spangles dance in the night<br />Candles light angles, as well they might<br />Bangles and spangles remind me of you<br />Bangles and spangles, sparkling and true<br />Bangles and spangles, spar....kling and true<br />These lyrics I sing<br />First existed as text<br />Some fine notes of music<br />Were sparkled in next<br />On the island created<br />My voice now alights<br />Lyrics and music<br />And their copyrights<br />Bangles and spangles dance in the night<br />Candles light angles, as well they might<br />Bangles and spangles remind me of you<br />Bangles and spangles, sparkling and true<br />Bangles and spangles, spar....kling and true<br />In singing this song<br />I take every care<br />To aim at perfection<br />In gilding the air<br />For singing these lyrics<br />I need pay no fees<br />If I record them<br />There&#039;ll be royalties<br />Bangles and spangles dance in the night<br />Candles light angles, as well they might<br />Bangles and spangles remind me of you<br />Bangles and spangles, sparkling and true<br />Yes bangles and spangles, .... sparkling.... and true</p><p>Copyright 1998 William Overington</p><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><p><a href="https://postimg.cc/cgGN2tbL"><span class="postimg"><img src="https://i.postimg.cc/cgGN2tbL/Copilot-20250727-072537.png" alt="https://i.postimg.cc/cgGN2tbL/Copilot-20250727-072537.png" /></span></a></p>]]></content>
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