Yes

I only recognized the first ten seconds of the music. I recognized instantly how it had been used in relation to educational broadcasts.

I had not, as far as I remember, heard all of it before.

Something that I have only once seen mentioned anywhere was a broadcasting experiment called Dawn, perhaps as early as 1963, when on four mornings for one week only, at I think 7 am, there was a broadcast of a lecture that had been filmed at a university, just as it had happened. I remember getting up early to watch it, it was about the four DNA bases and how they were two pairs and how they acted to reproduce DNA. There were four entirely different subject areas (I forget what they were, but like Mathematics, Chemistry, and so on, not all topics in, say, Chemistry.)

William

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(7 replies, posted in General Discussion)

The page has the following.

> 404 Page
> This is not the page you are looking for

If one reads it newsreader style then there we go.

But if one reads it in a different style ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihyjXd2C-E8

smile

William

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(7 replies, posted in General Discussion)

The page that was not available, the address found in a search engine, is for paper that has been made with wildflower seeds added into it during manufacture.

It can be used to print upon and the result can be planted and the seeds germinate and the paper compost away leaving growing flowers.

William

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(7 replies, posted in General Discussion)

Ah. I think that you have clicked on it and the position of the pointer may be over a product.

If you move the pointer to the very top of the page you might get what I intended for you to see. It is a 404 message. Just the way it is worded reminded me of a scene in a very famous movie that, although I cannot be congruently sure of it, you might well have watched the movie at least once.

A further clue can be supplied if you do not realize to which scene in which movie upon seeing the 404 text.

I wonder if it was deliberate, as humour.

William

https://paperstory.co.uk/products/handm … 100-cotton

smile

William

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(3 replies, posted in General Discussion)

Yes, I was amazed that that term was used in the email that I received.

Even if that is the culture in the business it seems strange to have written that to a potential customer.

I imagined a lady keen to get everything magnificent for her big day and being precise and asking questions and wanting proofs being laughed at behind her back and sneered at, quite possibly with the result that people who were knowledgable and skilled found that they were incapable of producing as good a result as they would for someone in a smart suit who is driving a brand new car.

It is interesting how the culture of a business varies from business to business.

William

On a side issue some events have in the rules that the winner has to agree to their photograph being published.

Why? If the competition is about what the person has produced, whether science, poetry, or whatever, why a photograph?

William

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(3 replies, posted in General Discussion)

Recently I enquired of a business about them doing a task related to printing for me.

As part of the enquiry I asked if proofs would be supplied.

The letter I got said that proofs could be made available, but generally only corporate customers and Bridezillas ask for them.

I had vaguely heard the term Bridezilla before, but I needed to look it up.

I have thought about this.

I remember that back in the 1960s I read a book about running a very small printing business, basically about a sole trader on his own with at one stage assistance from a young person. I had no intention of starting a printing business. The book arrived with an Adana 8 by 5 printing machine, a hand press, the machine bought for hobbyist Private Press printing, not to run a business.

One particular thing I remember from that book, and that has been influential on my attitude in relation to things nothing to do with printing, such as in advising students,  is as follows.

The author of the book suggested a scenario of a potential customer wanting a job done in a shorter time period than the business would take to do the job in the normal course of workflow.

The author said to either accept the job and do it or say that the time scale is too short and decline the job, never say that one will do it "to oblige" or "as a favour". The customer is paying to have a printing job done, the customer is not to become obliged or owing someone a favour.

So I am wondering whether referring to a customer who was being precise and trying to ensure that the job was being done to her satisfaction as a Bridezilla is being dismissive of a customer and smirking about her, as if doing a printing job for her was some sort of grudging tolerance of what is perceived as her unreasonable fussiness. I am concerned that such an attitude tends to result in sloppy work.

Using the word Bridezilla a sort of Freudian slip as to the culture of the business.

So I have regarded the reference to a Bridezilla as a red flag as to the culture of the business. Although I am not female, and not a bride, I wonder if asking a question or specifying something would be regarded as impertinence, ragarded as telling a tradesperson how do their job.

Do you agree, or have I misinterpreted the meaning?

William

Some time ago, this year, in a group of The Institute of Physics, there was announced a competition for an award purported to be for the best PhD thesis in physics this year.

I looked at the rules and I wrote to the organizers asking why, as the competition is for, in their opinion, the best PhD in Physics thesis this year, why the rules required an applicant for the prize to include a curriculum vitae and details of where and when the candidate obtained his or her first degree and the class of degree, as the competition was for the best PhD in Physics, not for the best combination of PhD thesis, curriculum vitae and consideration of where the candidate got his or her first degree and its class.

For the avoidance of doubt, there was no possibility of me, or anyone connected to me, being a candidate.

I received a reply that my comments would be put to the committee and would be taken into account when considering the rules for next year's competition.

Just wondering, how do people here feel about this? Should one take into account everything about the candidate, or, if the award is for the best PhD thesis in Physics should it be only on the thesis and nothing else?

William

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(23 replies, posted in General Discussion)

If one person buys the supermarket's own label version of something rather than the branded version to save money, there we go.

But if two million people buy the supermarket's own label version of something rather than the branded version to save money, does that result in some of the people at the factory that makes the branded version losing their job?

Why are own label versions cheaper?

William

I used punched cards a couple of times but I never typed them myself.

This was in the early 1970s.

Computer users had to write the desired text on forms that had 80 cells per row, and about 20 lines, and produce a collection of sheets numbered 1 of (total number), 2 of (total number), and so on.

These were handed in at a reception desk and staff keyboard operators keyed the text.

One got back a deck of cards and one's sheets all together with an elastic band around them together with the lineprinter output of a run of the program.

If I remember correctly that included a listing of the program.

I think the computer was an ICL 1900 series mainframe computer.

There were no lowercase characters.

A zero had to be written with a diagonal line through it to distinguish from a letter O.

There was a facility to resubmit a deck of cards, possibly with some removed, and folded coding sheets for extra cards placed within the deck at one or more places, all held together with elastic bands.

The staff member would then produce an updated deck of cards and the program run, and the cards, the coding sheet and any output returned to the user.

William

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(23 replies, posted in General Discussion)

I remember at one stage the co-op used to have a system where someone could fill in the next page or pages of an order book that the co-op supplied, post itto the shop, and on some particular day the grocery would be delivered in a large cardboard box. Basically a box that had arrived at the shop containing lows of packs of something like Bird's custard powder in it, or something like that.

I remember the book had printed on it a statement that if a brand was not stated then CWS brand would be supplied.

CWS was the Cooperative Wholesale Society. In effect, like a supermarket own label brand, but the various coop societies across the country did not each have their own own label products

Then there seems to have been an era from around 1960 to 2000 when there no deliveries from anybody.

I remember that as late as the 1970s in the then smaller supermarkets in Evesham the practice that in the walkway after the checkout stations that led to the exit there were piles of boxes, mostly cardboard. I always chose one that had had something reasonable in it, as there were some boxes that had contained cigarettes put out.

There were also large wooden boxes in which oranges had arrived at the store. Some were a bit useless as thin wooden slats with lots of air gaps, but some had solid sides with quite thick pieces of wooden plank.

William

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(1 replies, posted in Mathematics & Science)

Thank you for posting.

The concept of replacements for the bodies of birds and animals for food is a topic that has various views from vegans.

There seem to be three broad possibilities.

1. Cultures made from cells of birds and animals. So potentially getting the same stuff without killing living creatures.

2. Items made from plants yet textured and presented to look like and taste like the bodies of fish, birds and animals and of products derived from them, such as pies and fish fingers.

3. Items made from plants that have not been made to look like faux omnivore products because many vegans do not want their food to look like that as they want nothing to do with the cruelty.

The topic of group 1 above is new. I know that views among vegans about group 2 are very mixed. Some take the view that if those sort of look similar taste similar products are available and it helps people convert to becoming vegan then that is good, yet as committed vegans they do not want to eat that type of food themselves.

These days the number of vegans is increasing dramatically from what it was a few years ago. People have various reasons for being vegan. Some because of compassion for animals, some because of the wish to reduce global warming, some for health issues.

Mainstream still braggs about things that vegans reject. For example, some items like cars and furniture are advertised as if it is the best possible to have leather upholstery, yet I would never buy leather covered furniture, ugh, ooh, shudder!

Nor wear clothing or socks made from wool.

William

Yes, thank you.

William

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(3 replies, posted in History & Geography)

Indeed.

It was a brand new council house built in 1950, with a front garden and a 120 foot long back garden. Basically because a field had been converted by having a road up the middle and with houses each side, so the gardens that length just because of the size of the field.

Right into the 1970s a lot of council houses in this area that had been built in the 1930s only had an outside toilet.

I was very fortunate, though not realizing it at the time as it was just how it was.

The media image these days of "growing up on a council estate" is always very bleak, as in their image of what a council estate is like.

But it was not like that at all.

I think that a lot of the housing problem could be solved by building in the green belt and insisting that the building be no more than under 20% of the area of the house and garden. That way at least 80% of the green belt would still be green area and gardens could have trees and children have space to play.

This could be done by legislation. At present there is agricultural land and there is building land. If what is agricultural land gets planning permission to be built upon, the value of the land increases. Pokey little gardens have become common because of maximizing profit. If a third category of land such that dwellings can be built on them, but on no more than 20% of each plot were to become introduced by legislation, then the value of that land would be more than it was when it was agricultural land, yet less than it would be as pokey sized gardens housing land, and so it could all work satisfactorily, and people would have decent housing and the land would probably end up with more trees than it did before. And it would be good for the environment because if being 80% green would be conserved.

William

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(3 replies, posted in History & Geography)

Recently, I remembered that in the 1950s I was told that people in Birmingham lived in slums.

Thinking of this I searched on the web about the history of this, also remembering that in the early 1970s by Aston University in Birmingham there were workmen knocking down an area of ancient-looking packed-together houses in an area that was a few years later a grassed area with modern buildings surrounding it.

I found a gallery of photographs of how things were in as late as 1968 and the very early 1970s and there were children in some of the pictures.

The captions said that a charity was trying to identify the children and find them.

What do you think of that?

They would be in their late 50s to late 60s or so now.

Should people be trying to find them?

Hopefully as housing got replaced things got better for them.

Is it fair and reasonable to try to find someone who, as a child, lived in such conditions and bring it back into their life now?

The fact of the matter is that there are people now adults with a home of their own who were in care, perhaps because of being orphaned, divorce of their parents, cruel parents, various reasons.

Although true, should that information be regarded as of such a nature that publication of it by the media is regarded as if it is libel?

A hypothetical example,

A, who has been awarded a Nobel Prize today for ... was brought up in care because ...

That sort of thing.

I remember that there is a famous photograph from the 1930s depression era in America of an anguished looking woman with a baby or young child in one of the places in possibly California after having moved from somewhere like Oklahoma in the dust bowl era of the depression. Many many years later the media found her and drew attention to her as being the woman in the photograph, and caused her great distress in tagging her with it.

Fortunately, I did not grow up in housing like that. If i had, now, in 2022, I would not be at all pleased if some organization started on that I was once that child living in those squalid conditions and wanting to discuss it all with me.

William

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(23 replies, posted in General Discussion)

Thank you, GB, for explaining.

William

Some readers might like to know that Tesco has frames of various sizes available at a Clubcard Price of about 25% off until 27 November 2022.

William

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(23 replies, posted in General Discussion)

GB wrote:

People placed grocery orders by phone long before computers were available.

I have never known of that being available. Please say where that happened.

GB wrote:

We are discussing needs of people with very limited income. I do not know whether this includes William, or anyone else here, but somehow doubt it.

We are discussing inflation, we are discussing what items are needs as contrasted with what are not needs but perhaps desired.

There is, as far as I aware, no restriction about the discussion only being related to people with very limited income.

But in relation to Joe's list there is nothing on there apart from a computer that I would buy even if my income were much larger than it is.

I tend to buy relatively low-priced things that have some sort of special interest for me, such as what is notionally a custom photo greetings card that is in fact a print of my artwork that I produced on my computer, then I framed it in an oak effect frame delivered with the grocery. Total cost under £10. That, as it is a print of my own art, is of more interest to me than buying an expensive framed print by someone else. During the last two years I have bought several such custom greetings cards and frames. But it is a very low cost compared to the electricity bill, but i do like a warm house. Though I suppose those framed cards could be said to not be needs.

I suppose Joe's list could be extended by adding framed artist's prints and framed original paintings and things like ornate glass vases and so on. Yet not only expensive items like those.

William

Yes. i remember painting with water in one of them.

I have a vague memory of having one of them and knowing how to use it because I had had one before.

I cannot remember what were the designs, but I do remember a pale blue and a pale pink.

I migt remember a pale yellow. I do not remember a pale green. Though maybe there was green.

It would be interesting to know exactly how it was done, maybe green was not possible, so the artwork was designed to go with the colours that they had available to use.

William

The printed sheet of paper needs to include the front end the rear end as well as the length of the vehicle, preferably so that when cut out it is all in one piece.

So for some models that could possibly not all fit on a sheet of size A4.

The width of the A4 sheet needs to include two heights, a width between them, a half-width at each side to fold underneath and sticking tabs, so that is fine.

The box cars displaying the localizable sentences, the shunters and probably the main line locomotive should all fit on the A4 sheet.

But something like a sort-of Pullman-like coach with a name on the side might not.

So a shortened version to fit on an A4 sheet could be produced and an A3 full length version.

If I can get the other computer to start alright then I hope to try a test locomotive to get started, which could perhaps be the design for one or both of the shunters.

You are welcome to have a go too if you want to do so.

You are, of course, welcome to design such a model to your own size specification, but if designs from you, me and anybody else who wants to have a go are all to the same height and width specifications, then that would be good.

I am assuming that the sides go almost down to ground level and that therefore the wheels are imagined as being hidden from view.

Thought experiment.

One smartphone.

One vlogging kit.

Place the train in the view of the smartphone camera.

Place the scenery (half a dozen sheets of A3 sellotaped together) behind.

Start recording video.

Move scenery in reverse direction of train slowly at first, then increasing speed then slowing down to a stop.

Stop recording video.

Scenery effect like a little after the start of this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqMGVuxgpkQ

Except the train is to appear as moving to the left.

smile

William

I am thinking that using 300 dots per 8inch, 600 pixels for maximum height and 400 pixels for maximum width should probably be alright, would be covenient to use and would mean that most model designs could fit onto an A4 size sheet of card.

OO scale being 4 milllimetres to the foot.

William

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I suppose that it depends what one classes as very exceptional circumstances.

Without a computer I would have a big problem obtaining a food supply.

William

I wonder if it is like some titration solutions where colour varies with pH.

I remember that one was clear for one of acid/alkali and pink for the other.

So maybe the paper has been treated with dilute citric acid or something and the pens contain slightly alkaline titration solutions or something like that (or the other way round for acid/alkali) and drawing with the pen causes the colour to show.

William

Well, it depends.

Apparently some 350 gsm paper is thicker than other.

For example, I have had greetings cards from Papier at 350 gsm and the paper/card is thicker than A3 prints on 350 gsm paper/card from Viking Virtual Print House.

https://action-press.co.uk/blog/paper-t … explained/

William