Well, Jack, I suppose that the BBC could have met them both at a railway station or stations and delivered them to the hotel in the same car so that they arrived together.

But the hotel only has one room so one man is taken to a different hotel.

Then the next morning a letter addressed to someone of that name arrives at the first hotel.

William

I am reminded of an episode of Fawlty Towers where two people are each Doctor Somename and are in fact two doctors who are married to each other and Basil Fawlty gets into a muddle about it.

I suppose that the scriptwriters could have got more from that as one could have been a medical doctor and the other, say, a linguist. smile

Basil could have then asked one of them to look at his foot and be advised to speak to the other one and Basil get indignant about whether it was a demarcation issue and would it be the first doctor if he had asked about his head.

William

Yes, the two shunters will have different running numbers, even if they are of the same class.

William

Whereas

http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~ngo/l … er_032.pdf

and whereas

https://viking-virtualprinthouse.co.uk/

and whereas

https://affinity.serif.com/en-gb/designer/ (though version 1)

I have the idea that I would like to try having some models as in the story.

However, rather than buying a model railway and spending lots of money getting the specially painted wgons and a Pullman coach, and to see if i can do it, I have the idea of producing some artwork on an A4 sheet, getting some prints on 350 gsm (grammes per square metre) paper, which is thin card, and then using scissors and double sided sellotape, make some 3d models, the 2d artwork being for cut-out, fold and stick together activity.

I also want to try to make some locomotives, two shunters and a mainline locomotive.

I have the idea that the sloping front of the locomotives can be produced by using a 3, 4, 5 triangle for the shunters and a 5, 12, 13 triangle for the mainline locomotive.

That is the 3, 4 or 4, 3 and the 12, 5 being horizontal and vertical respectively, so that the length of the sloping front is 5 or 13, so that upon folding it will all fit togeher nicely. The sloping front not going down to the ground.

So I would like to make this artwork and then publish it in the Serif Affinity forum so that there is always the chance that somebody print some, make them up and might fit them on some OO model bits and actually run them.

So I have been trying, thus far without success to find the scale clearances for OO scale model railway rolloing stock. Then I can make the designs to fit and in fact a little lower so that if they were got to run on a model railway the models will still be in the clearance limits even if there are wheels fitted under them.

Can anyone find the scale clearances for OO gauge model railway rolling stock please?

If anyone else fancies trying to produce such models for locomotives, then we could agree a common scale so that all the models could work together.

William

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https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/us/the-l … r-AA14f1Qa

William

I got a publicity email from Tesco today with a list of offers including 25% off with ClubCard.

So I had a look and one of them was the following.

https://www.tesco.com/groceries/en-GB/p … /296508569

I am wondering what it is about and how it works.

I wondered at first if it was like those 1950s "magic" painting books where one painted with water and various areas came up in various colours.

But there appear to be five pens or markers.

William

I have found them.

https://unicode-org.atlassian.net/browse/CLDR-13722

Three posts, one from me just adminstrative.

William

Not the same thing, but I saw this and thought it more appropriate to add it here rather than start a new thread.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/entertainment … r-AA14gr62

Compare and contrast with quantum entanglement. Maybe a silly suggestion to do such a compare and contrast, but is there any similarity at all?

Such possibility is why I always include my middle initials on formal output. So three initials and surname. Alas, so many people try to edit my name by missing out the third initial, even if replying to a letter from me or a form that I have filled in correctly.

There was a public review about formatting names.

https://www.unicode.org/review/pri434/

I replied.

https://unicode-org.atlassian.net/browse/CLDR-15263

I later sent some other notes on the topic. I have seen them listed on a previous occasion.

William

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(23 replies, posted in General Discussion)

I have been interested in computers since my early teens, some years before i actually got to use one.

I don't remember quite how I first became interested.

I do remember that it was in the early 1960s reading Arthur C. Clarke's Profiles of the Future bought as a paperback after seeing it I think on a bookstall at New Street Station in Birmingham that inspired me that I wanted to be an inventor.

That sort of attitude has shaped my life greatly. I tend to consider ideas even if they at first glance seem ridiculous and I have sometimes found that by looking at them and adding something that something that will work can be found. It is that willingness to suspend disbelief for a while and think and not be dismissive with an annoyed wave of the hand that has helped me enormously. A willingness to be deemed as lacking confidence because I exercise caution before expresing an opinion rather than showing smiling confidence.

Years later, Arthur C. Clarke wrote, I think it might have been in The View from Serendip that in Profiles of the Future (which I think had been in hardback a few years before I saw the paperback version) he had speculated that the first man to walk on the moon might already be alive somewhere as a small boy, and in fact he was already a thirty year old man.

I remember that there was a road between two of the railway platforms at New Street Station and at the time it seemed quite odd to have a road down the middle of a railway station.

Years later, I learned that it had originally been two stations on the same site, for two different railway companies, that had later both become part of the London Midland and Scottish Railway in the railway grouing of 1923.

It is interesting that companies such as LMS and LNER (London and North Eastern Railway) each formed in 1923 only lasted for 25 years until nationalization into British Railways in 1948, yet those 25 years saw the development and use of most of the United Kingdom steam locomotives that are modelled by model railway companies today.

Another book that inspired me at that time was a Pelican paperback book Five Hundred Years of Printing by S. H. Steinberg, and I have been interested in Incunabula ever since.

And in a very large bookshop in Birmingham at that sort of time they had a very comprehensive display of the Teach Yourself series books. Most bookshops had a selection, often the more common ones, like Teach Yourself French and so on. So when I saw Teach Yourself Old English I bought it on the basis that there it was, I might never see that on offer ever again, buy it while I have the opportunity to do so.

Some years later, I was in a bookshop and I wanted to ask a member of staff something and I approached a man who was putting Teach Yourself books in a vertical rotating stand.

He politely explained that he did not work there, he was a representative of Teach Yourself books. We had a discuusion about them. He said that most of them were written as a labour of love by the author of the book. He said that most of the sales were of people who became interested in something, bought a book about it, but never read past the first chapter.

William

https://www.moma.org/calendar/exhibitions/5535

William

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Also, I wonder if people will stop, or reduce, the sending of Christmas cards this year.

William

Thank you for posting the video.

It is a pity that such discussions use the example of cruelty to a sentient creature.

They could quite easily use a glass vase instead. The glass vase remaining whole or becoming shattered.

William

I have known for a long time of the fact that some place names ending in -by, such as Grimsby, have a Viking origin.

New to me is the extent of the influence in English place names of the language that now survives as Welsh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQoVaPvRqvc

William

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(23 replies, posted in General Discussion)

A 'new to you' car can be essential if one lives in a rural area and has a job that is other than very local or reachable and returnable from by public transport.

For me, retired, no longer driving, a computer is essential. I need it in order to arrange grocery deliveries from Tesco. The ability to then be able to do things like access this website, watch YouTube videos and use Duolingo.com to learn Welsh and to improve my knowledge of Esperanto and try a bit of Dutch and a few others, are basically then "free except for the cost of the electricity" bonuses.

If someone has a child or children, then it is reaonable for every effort to be made to give them the experience and memories of a happy Christmas.

Balance that though with that recently one newspaper had a feature of how a woman had managed to save £900 a year. Ooh, big story. Actually, she had cancelled subscriptions to various movie streaming services and so on, things that many of us had not spent money on in the first place.

I notice that Joe's list does not include anything about alcohol, tobacco or expensive types of food.

Are any of those needed?

I get adverts about how bottles of wine are ONLY (my emphasis) some amount of money.

I wonder if the various campaigns that happen in January, namely giving up alcohol, giving up smoking, go vegan, will have more people joining in when money is tighter.

William

I looked at

https://www.tesco.com/groceries/en-GB/s … crafts/all

while not logged on to the Tesco online grocery website and it states 829 items.

When I logged on, it lists 557 items.

Quite a difference.

The store from where my groceries are delivered is a SuperStore.

But perhaps the store is, say, 60% of the size of the really big Tesco stores.

However, depending how one distinguishes one item from another, one can think of it as many more than 557 items, because some items are listed as "an assortment".

For example,

https://www.tesco.com/groceries/en-GB/p … /262782526

So Tesco has counted that as one item, but I tend to think of it as three items.

One of the many items with the following message.

> Please note that the products shown are an assortment, you could receive any one of the products shown, to make a request for a preference please use the picker notes available on checkout

I suppose that if one is in the store shopping one selects one's choice.

I have found that on quite a number of occasions I have requested a preference for various items, including this one.

One time I ordered two of them and requested one purple and one white, and that is what arrived.

It is like an art form getting one's preferences expressed in the 55 letters, digits, spaces and some punctuation and signs allowed for each type of item.

So a note something like the following.

1 Purple 1 White if poss please OR 2 purple OR 2 white

just in case they do not have one of the requested colours and wonder whether to send two of one colour or one each of the requested colour they have and black, though the message does not indicate what to do if there are only black ones there, as in whether to send two blacks ones or put not available.

Almost always the requested choice has been made by the personal shopper. Probably only not when there was no stock available.

I often wonder whether the notes improve the job for the personal shopper in that what could be a somewhat monotonous activity of going through lists of items, the notes add variety and make the job one of giving personalised service thereby providing job satisfaction and interest.

I noticed this assortment.

https://www.tesco.com/groceries/en-GB/p … /304533912

I suppose that a request mentioning colour and a distinctive feature could be successful, but I suppose that a lot depends on how many different types are actually in the store at the time and how they are set out. For example if there are 17 rows all the same in each row and the packaging is in a clear plastic pack or if they are in a collection of boxes all mixed in a block, several wide, 3 high and going back five deep on a shelf.

Though, Tesco can be very good, so maybe someone would be given the task to go through them and try to find the requested item.

For example, years ago when I used to shop in the store there was a man and a woman going round, each in a wheelchair, and there was a member of Tesco staff going round the store getting things off the shelves for them, which I thought was good of Tesco to provide that facility.

I have noticed that the example note to the personal shopper has gone upmarket and genteel over the years.

It is now

> pick only ripe avocados please...

whereas at one time it was

> I want green bananas

William

Alfred wrote:
William wrote:

But some time later I saw another article and it seemed ssensible in that the two things, to be or seem to be entangled had at some previous time needed to to be together.

I’m afraid I can’t quite make sense of this, William. Could you … er … disentangle it for me, please?

I don't know very much at all about quantum physics, just a bit from over fifty years ago.

But, well, all the stuff about items purportedly communicating across the universe with each other at faster than the speed of light, seems to not take into account the fact that they were once both together and may both have some shared memory gained together.

So say the man with half of the sixpence is at Land's End and he tells another man that the woman who has the other half of the sixpence is at John O'Groats and that she has blue eyes.

So the second man promptly travels by the fastest means available to John O'Groats and immediately upon arrival finds the woman and notes that she has blue eyes.

So, the solution is that at one time the man and the woman were together and he observed the colour of her eyes and has remembered that information, not that he was able from Land's End to determine the colour of the woman's eyes by some fantastic instant observation over that great distance away from her when he was talking to the second man.

William

I was told about ripped certificates in the early 1970s by a then work colleague who arrived around the early 1970s who was a Cambridge graduate, though whether he had started straight after university or had worked elsewhere after university I do not know.

William

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It seems to be regarded as a given in the media and perhaps more generally that the way to tackle inflation is to put up interest rates.

But why are the two supposedly linked?

I may be missing something that is widely known by others.

But can anyone explain please?

William

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(1 replies, posted in Mathematics & Science)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5_wdIadHAk

If you want to see it lift off, then please go forward to 1 hour 20 minutes into the video.

William

I saw something about entanglement and one article, just a general thing, seemed to me to have a bit of an Emperor's New Clothes thing about it. Believe or at least go along with, stupidity or be regarded as stupid oneself.

But some time later I saw another article and it seemed ssensible in that the two things, to be or seem to be entangled had at some previous time needed to to be together.

So I remembered four things from ordinary life that seemed the same.

The half-a-sixpence thing, where a man who has to go, perhaps to war, or whatever, cuts a coin in half and keeps one half and gives the other half to his girlfriend.

Someone who had a degree from Cambridge told me that his certificate was ripped across the lower edge and he speculated that somewhere in the university was a book with the lower ends of degree certificates in it with the names of the people to whom the degree had been awarded, so that the authenticity or otherwise of a purported certificate could be determined by attemping matching the torn edge of the purported certificate with the retained lower part.

Apparently in olden times in Italy if a woman gave her baby to an orphanage because she was unable to look after the child properly, she could tear a piece of cloth in two and put one half with the child and keep the pther half. Thus the mother could reclaim the child at a later date if her circumstances improved.

I read somewhere that in olden times, possibly in England, but I am not sure, the terms of a loan or perhaps a mortgage were recorded on a plank of wood by means of holes and marks and then the plank was cut down the middle and each of the two people retained one half, thereby a protection as to what had been agreed.

So is quantum entaglement something like that, information retained in two pieces that were once together?

Placebo is interesting. I read somewhere of a trial where people were given placebos and some got better.

Apparently, placebos have in some cases been known to work even when the patient knows that the tablet has no medicine in it.

That sounds peculiar, but I am wondering if the routine of having something to do, like take one at 10 am and take one at 6 pm, helps give a structure to the patient's day so that the patient is not just at home alone all day, but has tablets to take, so maybe makes a meal to have with it, rather that letting his or her regular eating pattern drift.

I remember reading of a mental hospital where they gave patients electrical shock treatment and patients got better. One day a new docor, who had previously worked elsewhere using the same treatment, and pointed out that the equipment was broken and not in fact giving any electrical shock at all. So the question arose as to why the patients had been getting better. It was concluded that instead of normally feeling isolated and lonely, in the time before, at, and after the procedure, the patient was the centre of attention from the doctors and nurses and that had a positive effect on the patient.

Astrology is interesting as some parts of it may be encoding observed knowledge. For example, one's star sign. Well, that is indicative of which nine months one was in gestation, and a country far from the equator has ambient temperatures and light intensity that vary greatly during those months, and chemical reactions often depend upon temperature. So does which nine months gestation takes place affect the brain?

I read once of a French study where they used a French book of a similar nature to Who's Who, and compared day and month of birth of people at the top of whatever they did, like musician, artist, soldier, whatever, using a null hypothesis that birth date should not be significant as to profession. But apparently the null hypothesis was disproved.

However, the result could be skewed by the cohorting of children into school years.

For example, as children playing football in a year-group, boys born in September may be 10% or more, more developed than boys born in August as they are almost a year older.

I might have read somewhere that there is a tendency for professional footballers to have been born sometime within September to December.

Another thing about Astrology. If one looks at the sky and sees a star, that means that the light from that star is causing a sensation in one's brain. Do we know that as well as what we call vision that it is not causing other effects as well?

William

Serendipity.

I looked for the song and I found a movie!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzbScrr5KoQ

and the song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gx1SWS1MFbU

William

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/t … r-AA148jfW

I am not sure, but it is possible that some of this may be as a result of when William Caxton brought the printing press to England (as in the song which has the line "I'm the man who brought the printing press to Eng...land" to the tune of "The man who broke the bank at Monte Carlo" smile ) he imported type from Europe, possibly from Cologne, so the sorts for the characters were not in the font.

This is I think why inn signs like Ye Olde Red Horse exist, because, faced with no thorn character, it was improvised with a Y.

William

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Thank you for posting.

It was probably back in the 1980s that I saw a set of cards published by the Royal Horticultural Society.

Blocks of colour, similar in general style to the cards that B&Q and the like used to have free that showed the range of colours for decorating paint, but the RHS ones were colours related to flowers and lots of colours and each block of colour had a hole about a quarter of an inch in diameter in the middle. The idea being that one placed the areas of printed colour over a flower to try to match the colour of the flower to a colour on the card, and thereby get a code or name, I don't know which, to describe the colour of the flower.

William

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To me, Eco-warriors block gives the impression of a number of people all positioning themselves around the tree to prevent forestry workers cutting it down.

If I have understood it correctly this appears to be the staff of the forest in a dispute with town councillors and then, in the style of an Ealing Comedy, all is resolved when a third party points out that the town council has no jurisdiction over the piece of land where the tree is planted.

It does seem unnecessary to kill any beautiful living tree so as to display its dead body somewhere for a few weeks rather than let it live and thrive.

I wonder what is the carbon cost of cutting it down in that the dead tree is no longer absorbing carbon dioxide from the atmosphere.

I know that the one from Norway in Trafalgar square in London was always burned afterwards in case it had some tree disease or some such story.

Perhaps the solution would be to plant one and have it there permanently.

Norway Spruce looks good in spring when fresh green shoots appear and there is a two-tone green display.

On an issue that might be related, in Evesham they used to have, and maybe still do, a Tree of Light each year as Christmas approahes.

And they used to kill a tree and display its body and people could pay (I think it went to charity) to have the name of a deceased loved one listed in a roll of honour that was published and also conserved.

For whatever reason, the Tree of Light changed from killing a tree and decorating it with lights to decorating a large tree growing in the town, it is either a sequoiadendron or a sequoia, with lights, the same tree every year.

William

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https://www.msn.com/en-gb/travel/news/e … r-AA148WEV

In the event, the title is not accurate as to what happened.

Wider ethical issues too.

William