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This is the one of the good things about the Panasonic in that you can charge it or run it with a cheap 5v phone  power pack.
https://i.postimg.cc/4mf5W9FM/Screenshot-2001.png

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Albert Ross wrote:

Very good Gordon, all you need to do now is to replicate the effect on another eight or 9 flowers, stitch it all together, add a narration and you will have something a certain D. Attenborough would be proud of!!

I was just giving it a try as these ones are out of the wind and possible rain and I can leave the camera there for hours. This could have been better as I wanted to leave it running for another hour or so to get all the flowers fully open, however as I  said the battery went flat !!! If I do it again I will use my external power pack.

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Just a bit of fun, I actually wanted it to last longer but the battery went flat !   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wL7LE65OwxE

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ericlnz wrote:

Personally I consider having to control your camera using your phone ridiculous and in cramped situations difficult.   I'm amazed Panasonic don't provide a proper means of remote control.

Eric I disagree as it's very easy to use, I use my Samsung phone that I bought on eBay for £25 and the App cost nothing. You can see what you are filming on a bigger screen and start/stop/ zoom/replay and control other things on the camera while sitting in a chair having a coffee or a beer. I need a bit of comfort in my dotage so I don't think that is ridiculous ?
Both of my old SD900 Panasonics have a remote but they have limited controls and no screen so you have to be  close to the camera to see what's going on. They stopped making them probably because they realized that they would have to make a remote with a screen and were on a hiding to nothing, as a phone (that most of us have) has got it already to go.

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ericlnz wrote:

What my Canon does have, which several of my friends don't have with their 4K Panasonics, is remote operation, unless they have a compliant mobile phone that can be used to control their cameras!

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Yes I have the ability to control the Panasonic from my phone that is a bonus, especially the zoom that is super smooth when on a decent tripod. I to have an old close up lens set left over from from my stills days that happen to be the same diameter for the Panasonic but too small for the Sony, OK I can use them on it but I don't see the point in cropping in post. Something else that I picked up years ago that I still use, is a clockwork tripod mount panning device that is brilliant that will revolve a full 360 deg.
I never throw anything away much to Sue's dismay !

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ericlnz wrote:

Mighty Monarchs https://vimeo.com/795458911

Close up video is always a challenge.

I enjoyed that Eric, really well filmed and sorry that you missed the great event.  It's a different concept waiting for ages for something to happen and I get too impatient, mostly I get the camera all secured/exposed/focused and suddenly a gale force ten suddenly appears on cue !
Close up work is not the easiest to do outside and mostly the professionals tend to have a mock up in the studio with perfect lighting etc so I also admire your video from the technical side.
Obviously we won't be having caterpillars and butterflies for some while over this side so the only things worth filming close up at the moment are the crocuses and snowdrops on the lawn that have started to grow in the last week.
On a technical note did you just use the zoom lens or did you use any close up lenses on the filter ring ? I have tried both over the years but can never decide what is best.   


https://i.postimg.cc/4nH8nyTC/Lawn-c.jpg

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Albert Ross wrote:

Gordon, flooding seems to be the norm these days doesn't it. I am quite surprised that we don't get it where I live, as we are only a five minute walk from the River Thames here in Grays.

We have always had flooding as we live in a valley where two rivers join, so it's no big deal having lived here for over 70 years. The main problem now is since the Tonbridge flood barrier was installed after the 1968 biggest one in living memory it comes up within 12 hours when they shut it. Now in their wisdom they are putting an extra metre on it this year !
I am a certified scuba diver so I should be able to survive.

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Albert Ross wrote:

Eric, we have been getting pictures on our news bulletins over here and Auckland looks horrendous, with pictures of people up to their waist in water. I did think of you as I was watching the pictures. Keep safe over there.

Albert Ross, we do get our share as well, this is one of the roads out of our village in the UK !

https://i.postimg.cc/SXgLXK6Q/Floods-1.jpg

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Hello !! is there anyone still alive out there ?  I know that I have been to a couple of funerals in the last few weeks but hopefully some of us are still alive ?  I have also got to go to 2 more funerals in the next couple of weeks so that's 4, perhaps I could make a feature film especially if I get an invite to a wedding. Hmm I wonder what I could call it ?

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ericlnz wrote:
GStree wrote:

As we will be in the UK for a while we went for a walk down the back of our house yesterday as the floods have receded. As usual I had my old Panasonic 990 in my pocket to capture a little part of our surroundings.
https://youtu.be/BiOxnoUzd1s

Thanks Gordon.  Looks a lot different to Spain.

Yes it's certainly "different"!  but I have lived here for over 70 years and we have always been used to floods. The house we now live in can get cut off as the road gets flooded in both directions as we are between two rivers that converge behind us. In 1968 we had the biggest flood after torrential rain for weeks that flooded the high street in the nearest Town downstream causing serious damage. A new flood barrier was installed in 1970 to stop it happening and now when they shut the gates the water rises within a few hours. However it soon disappears when they open them. This was a few weeks back and we could get through. In 1968 we had 0ver 6ft of water in this same spot!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWOHHL1FprA

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As we will be in the UK for a while we went for a walk down the back of our house yesterday as the floods have receded. As usual I had my old Panasonic 990 in my pocket to capture a little part of our surroundings.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kS2U_gtPQdU

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Happy Christmas everyone https://youtu.be/qUguIdZnx8g

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ericlnz wrote:

Christmas challenge for film and video makers

Do you remember the first movie you made years ago? Full of errors you wouldn't make now!  Can you grab it and post for old times sake?  Mine was in Easter 1967 when I went on a "safari" around South London parks "In search of Squirrels" https://vimeo.com/781392655

The main problem that I have is that I haven't got an 8mm projector anymore, also the 16mm ones that I made at school were left there when I finished in 1962. The majority of my 8mm films were made at motor racing events with a non focusing clockwork camera that I bought in a junk shop for 10 bob. My later films were mainly made in Spain with a S8 sound cine camera and edited onto 400ft reels that I have been intending to put on Digi for ages.

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I was intending to do a bit of filming around our area in the UK during the snow before we set of to Spain for a while, unfortunately one of my best friends who was my sponsor for my motor racing career and ran the local brewery died a couple of weeks back and the funeral is on the 19th. We thought that we could get away after Christmas as we booked a flight on the 31st, but a death in the family has put a stop to it. Unfortunately my brothers wife died at the weekend after a brave fight against the big C and the funeral won't be until the new year.
It brings things back into reality when this happens, just as you are thinking that life is going fine. The picture below was taken by my wife of Bob Dockerty the brewery owner, and is going on the front of the order of service as it showed him just as he was. RIP Bob.   
https://i.postimg.cc/LnKXgcnC/Bob-Dockerty.jpg

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ericlnz wrote:

Thanks Paul.  All yours look great.

I did a lot of work with mine on the timeline.  Levels, colour correction, sharpening.  Plus cutting into sections and varying the play speed to match the audio waveforms of the captured film stripe with the audio from my original tapes. At least I had reasonable audio quality.

I chuckle when some try to make old film look like modern digital.  That destroys the atmosphere of film.

I noted in my post how good it was and I did think that it had been done with some sort of film scanner !
Although I do agree to a point regarding the atmosphere of of old films, I find that when they are done with the very best equipment the results are truly amazing, years ago it would have been impossible !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHkc83XA2dY

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ericlnz wrote:

Gordon - I did my transfers around 16 years ago using the crude method of copying with a digital video camera off a small screen onto which the film was projected. The quality varied from good to barely acceptable depending on the quality of the original.  40 Plus was my first and probably my best.  Shot on a Sankyo 8CM Standard Eight camera purchased secondhand from Wallace Heaton in 1967.

Yes that's what I tried with different textures of screen to hold back the highlights. I did find that running the projector at 24 frames and slowing the copy in post helped as well to avoid flickering. I must admit that your copying was very good that's why I asked.
The only projector I still have is an Elmo stereo sound that I bought towards the end of my S8 filming days, and surprisingly I sold a couple of S8 sound cameras to the USA in the last 2 years as there are still some "film anoraks" over there.
Although I used to enjoy editing film back then you didn't get a second chance if you made a balls up along the line somewhere, and I'm sure that todays video makers have no idea what it was like, and of course the price of the film itself!

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Albert Ross wrote:

Just a quick update. I have now cleared the cache but still cannot watch Samoa. The strange thing is that I can watch some of Eric's older videos like the one made in 2015 featuring the insects in his back garden, etc., but as for Samoa...

I'll see if I can watch it with my Alexa device.

Albert, it does seem very strange as I can simply put in https://vimeo.com/33854096 on Edge or Google
and it goes straight onto it. Perhaps your laptop needs a new mainspring !

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Eric, I just loved the film as it reminded me of going to the local "flea pit" cinema on a Saturday morning and watching one of the shorts on Movietone News.  Did you do the 8mm to Digi yourself?, as I have thought about buying one of those machines that convert film to Digi frame by frame onto an SD card.
Over the years I have tried various ways (with limited success) to get some of my old 8 and S8mm films  onto Digi before they are lost forever, even projector bulbs are getting harder to find let alone any other parts!

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I can watch it with no problem, and I only have a free account.

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pberk wrote:

I never heard of this .. Certainly a wonder of nature .. Good video work ..

I'd would have narrated instead of the lengthy title cards, used more live sound and sought out comments from others in the group .. but that's me -- It's your memory of the experience, (what caught your eye) so in that sense it's perfect as it is. 

It's interesting that this has become a tourist attraction.  But why not?  And I'm quite sure the video, nor any pictures, capture the impact of seeing something like this in person. 

Thanks for posting.

Sorry about the title cards but I am useless at narration.  I could get other people to do it for me including a couple of radio presenters that I happen to know, and one ex ITV newscaster who lives in our village in the UK that I have been friends with for years. The only problem with that is I like to make the complete film myself and it would be a lot of "faffing"about.
As for live sound, I did try at first to use the sound off the camcorder, but it was very "echo" orientated and I went off the idea. Normally I use a separate audio recorder, but I knew that there was going to be a lot of walking up and down spiral staircases and only took the minimum gear with me on this occasion.
If I went again, I would also have taken at least one LED light as it was very dark in most of the tunnels, and as my camcorder only has a small sensor the lens was wide open for a good part of the video.

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The dictionary describes a "Geode" as a "small" cavity in rock, lined with crystals or other mineral matter, however in 1999 at Pulpi (that is not too far up the coast to us in Spain) the largest mineral geode in Europe was discovered in an old iron mine. We have driven past it many times over the years and decided one day to take a look at it.
There was a lot of walking involved on the day with the different levels that were only accessible by stairways,but since I made this video, I understand that lift shafts have been installed.
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One other factor is experience.  This was not my first event like this.  It did take a fair amount of effort and time to edit.  But it was a labor of love.  My goal was to get it down to 15 min.  So, in that sense, I failed.  But my wife always wants these video memories to be longer -- not shorter.  If I cut things too much, she notices.  So it's too long for general audiences but, for us, on a cold winter's night, just right
Do you have any Cunard experience?


I know exactly what you mean regarding how long a big project should last. You shoot loads and loads and what do you leave in and leave out?  Obviously, you don't want to bore people with too much "baby on lawn" style footage.
What I tend to do is run though all the shots to make sure that I have enough of the main things and people that will matter, even if it means recording extra footage afterwards (if possible).
I always make sure that it has a start that establishes where the venue is, then the middle with all the important parts including onlookers/audience (if it has any). The end can take many forms depending what type of video I am filming, it can end with a fade out of the outside of the venue or a dance or whatever, but I always wind it down without a sudden stop, and if it has an audience, fade out on them. 
I am a bit ruthless on a lot of shots and do cut them tight in post unless they are important, this is probably left over from my old "proper film" days when it was expensive to buy.
After I have finished it, I run it on the TV in front of my wife for an honest opinion to see if it conveys what I am intending it to show to others, as it's easy for me as I was there. Very often I will alter parts before I am satisfied, and I will overdub music if it is feasible. I try and make sure that any part of the audio track is as good as I can get it and I always use a separate sound recorder. If it's a band I will (if possible) plug a flash drive into the mixing desk, but I will still use the audio recorder with mikes as I have had a few disasters in the past with the singer or some instruments not mixed properly!
Regarding Cruise Liners the answer is no, they have never appealed to me and the only sea voyages that I do these days are on the cross-channel ferries or to Nothern Spain, if I am not flying for some reason.

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pberk wrote:

This video is from 2015.  It's long, 22 minutes, but worthwhile for anyone interested in "Cunard" history. The video was shot at Cunard's 175th Anniversary concert held in the Liverpool Cathedral.  It was a grand affair, attending by several thousand people.   We are old Cunarders over the past 25 years, hence we felt very lucky to be there.  Considering the conditions ( I was merely a member of the audience), I'm very proud of the filming and editing. 

https://youtu.be/A06dyC0p5Rk

Wow that was excellent, I appreciate how good that is considering from where you were seated! Was "all" of it recorded on the day or did you use extra footage from somewhere else?
Yes, the editing is first class and I would think that it took a fair bit of time to finish? also what camera was you using at the time.

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ericlnz wrote:

Thanks Gordon.  It looks very dry and barren.  I didn't notice any trees.  Vastly different to the green English countryside. 

On the plus side not much traffic.  Only two vehicles passed.  Not quite like London rush hour!

The thing is that we are very lucky in that we have a choice of both as we live very close to Gatwick airport and Spain is only a two and a half hours flight away for us. The only problem now is that since Brexit we can only spend 180 days a year in the EU, and only 90 days max at one time. We don't want to take up residency as owning properties in both countries can cause double taxation problems, and I don't want to give away my small amount of savings to something that I don't need to!
The 180 days thing is at least a "rolling" number, so we tend to do 5/6 weeks maximum at a time and pop back home in the UK for a while.
As we have been doing it for years "on and off" (and more since we both retired) it can get a bit confusing sleeping in different beds/driving different cars on alternate sides of the roads/eating different foods/different language etc, and a few hours later it all changes! However, all the time that we are fit and able to do it then we will continue.
Regarding traffic, yes on the open roads most are relatively free of vehicles especially out of season, but the main resorts are a bit of a nightmare and to find a parking space can be a pain in July/August, but we can walk to a lot of the places that we need to fortunately.

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pberk wrote:

Thinking about Alaska today .. we are scheduled to go back in July 2023 .. We've been there many, many times.  We especially love the enchanted forest at Icy Strait Point.

Cold weather is not my "cup of tea" either, an interesting short video though.


Going back to 2016 this is simply a drive up the coast road near our place in Spain taken off the dashcam. It shows the totally unspoilt coastline in our area that is just the same today.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyWvyQIA26A