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Eliffant a dafad a draenog => An elephant and a sheep and a hedgehog
An elephant and a daffodil and a dragon => Eliffant a chennin pedr a draig
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Additional note:
That is, chennin pedr is, literally in English, Peter's leek.
The word "a" in Welsh, is "and" in English.
I am learning Welsh with duolingo.com and eliffant a dafad was in an exercise and later draenog was mentioned. So I wondered, in a mix of fun and increasing my understanding of Bing Chat AI what would happen with the following prompt.
Please produce an original impressionist painting in the style of Renoir. Eliffant a dafad a draenog.
Oh!
For the avoidance of doubt, Bing Chat AI has translated two of the Welsh nouns incorrectly, thus producing an unexpected picture. All four pictures are based on the same incorrect translation.
Thank you.
Can you possibly post those two images please? The fact that it happened reinforces the ambience that AI is very good much of the time but it does need human checking that what the AI produces is what is requested in the prompt or if indeed the AI is correct in what it purports to have produced. I have found that some AI paintings output from some prompts does not accurately match the prompt yet is good in some way and worth conserving. For example, earlier in this thread,
https://punster.me/serif/viewtopic.php?pid=4018#p4018
displays two images that do not accurately match the prompt yet if one does not know what was the prompt then the images are fine as free-standing images.
William
Please produce a full length painting of a lady in the style of Renoir. The lady is wearing a blue dress. Please have a solid red background with nothing in the painting except the lady. This is so that the picture of the lady may be used as clip art.
Given that the background is not a plain white colour, what is the best way to produce a clip art picture from the original JFIF file please?
https://www.makeuseof.com/what-is-a-jfif-file/
I have Affinity Designer, which I have used but not for its advanced uses, and Affinity Photo.
As this is a bitmap image, is it best to use Affinity Photo?
As best I know, a JPEG file does not support transparency, so I may need to convert to 32-bit PNG.
William
Please produce a full length painting of a lady in the style of Renoir. The lady is wearing a red dress. Please have a plain white background with nothing in the painting except the lady. This is so that the picture of the lady may be used as clip art.
Please produce an original impressionist painting in the style of Renoir. A lady is steering a gondola. There are no men in the painting. The only person in the painting is the lady.
Please produce an original impressionist painting in the style of Renoir. A lady is steering a gondola. There are no men in the painting. The only person in the painting is the lady.
The following prompt worked to paint a female gondolier, but some pictures did include other people.
Please produce an original impressionist painting in the style of Renoir. A lady is steering a gondola. There are no men in the painting. The only person in the painting is the lady.
Each day when I start experimenting with Bing Chat AI I start a WordPad text file, a .rtf file, I name the file including the date, today is 20240123 Tuesday, then the files are sorted alphabetically by name in date order.
As I proceed I write each prompt that I intend to use in the WordPad file before using it, then copy and paste into Bing Chat AI to use it. I then paste the URL address of the image group into the WordPad file. If I get a text response from Bing Chat AI I copy from Bing Chat AI and paste into the WordPad file.
I save the WordPad file as I proceed. So I now have a collection of WordPad files with all the prompts that I have used. Indeed I am drafting this forum response in the same file and I noted the time, 23:15, before I started writing this forum response.
When I ask you to produce an original painting for me, is it possible to express in my prompt to you the positions of objects using coordinates in a three-dimensional space?
While I can create a graphic art based on your prompt, I’m afraid I can’t interpret specific coordinates in a three-dimensional space. My ability to generate images is based on the description you provide, but it doesn’t extend to understanding precise spatial coordinates or depth. I suggest providing a detailed description of the scene you want to be created, and I’ll do my best to generate an image that aligns with your vision.
Please produce an original impressionist painting in the style of Renoir of a lady writing a letter. Please include in the painting an area to the right of her head that has another painting within it. The second painting indicates her thoughts. Her thoughts are of a man. Please include a third painting by the head of the man. The third painting indicates the thoughts of the man. The man is thinking of the lady.
Please produce an original impressionist painting in the style of Renoir of a lady writing a villanelle. Please include in the painting an area to the right of her head that has another painting within it. The second painting indicates her thoughts. Her thoughts are of a beach, the sea and seabirds.
Please produce an original impressionist painting in the style of Renoir of a lady writing a villanelle. Please include in the painting an area to the right of her head that has another painting within it. The second painting indicates her thoughts. Her thoughts are of a beach, the sea and seabirds.
Please produce an original impressionist painting in the style of Renoir of a lady writing a villanelle.
Those are good results.
What were the prompts that you used please?
William
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SmyaLwpSaI
Renoir, The Grands Boulevards
A video about a painting by Renoir. 5 minutes 45 seconds
It appears thus far that Bing Chat AI will not allow a female gondolier.
Please paint an original oil painting in the style of Renoir. The scene is a small canal in Venice. There is a gentleman as a passenger in a gondola. The gentleman is wearing a suit. The gondolier is female. It is a very sunny day. The picture includes an area of water, with ripples refecting the sunlight.
Once upon a time, in the heart of a quaint town, a lady adorned in a vibrant yellow dress sat alone at a table in the garden of a charming café. Her dress contrasted beautifully with her wide-brimmed red hat, which shielded her eyes from the afternoon sun. Her long, light brown hair flowed down her shoulders, dancing in the gentle breeze that blew in from her right side.
The café was nestled amidst a grove of olive trees, their silhouettes swaying rhythmically in the background, adding a touch of serenity to the scene. On the table before her, a cup of coffee sat next to two glasses of wine - one white, one red. The white wine was for her father, the red for her uncle.
Earlier that day, her father had asked her to meet him and her uncle at the café. Always punctual, she arrived in good time, but they were nowhere to be seen. As she waited, she sipped her coffee, her eyes occasionally drifting towards the entrance of the café, anticipating their arrival.
Minutes turned into hours, but she didn't mind. She enjoyed the solitude, the soft rustling of the olive trees, and the occasional chirping of a bird. It was a beautiful day, and she was content.
Finally, she saw two familiar figures approaching. Her father and uncle, both wearing apologetic smiles, walked towards her. They were late, but their faces were glowing with excitement. As they sat down, they apologized for their tardiness and raised their glasses for a toast.
With a twinkle in their eyes, they shared the good news they had been eager to tell her. It was a moment of joy and celebration, a beautiful end to an ordinary day that turned out to be anything but ordinary.
I was trying to get a picture of crane birds before a gibbous moon.
Previously it has been established that Bing Chat AI will not paint a gibbous moon when asked for a gibbous moon.
So I decided to try to get the desired result by describing the moon otherwise than by using the word "gibbous".
Yet however I have phrased the prompt thus far it is always a full moon that is produced.
So, hey ho, maybe it is just not possible.
So, on what I suppose is a researcher's hunch, I thought of trying some other celestial body. Hmm - Saturn would be distinctive - I wonder if Bing Chat AI will do that. Yes, it will! Those look good, I'll post one to the thread. Well, post two.
Imagine please a real life artist who paints pictures for a fee. How would he or she react to being asked to paint such a picture by a fee-paying client? How does a garage mechanic who usually works on new cars react when he is assigned to a customer's many years old car that the customer wants to keep going? Maybe it is one of the best cars that he has to work on (What!) Ah, but the customer pays the bill promptly upon receiving the invoice. Do all of the people with new cars pay the bill promptly?
The answer to the second question asked of me in the post is, as far as I know, "No".
I opine that the first picture is particularly stylish.
I am asked "Why do you consider this a good result?"
I have thought of what answer I can state. I do consider it a good result, but I find it hard to express why. It has expanded my knowledge of what Bing Chat AI can be prompted to produce. Bing Chat AI will not place a gibbous moon in the background, but it will place Saturn.
I remember a movie, I don't remember which, where a woman is on stage and starts to sing a song, then the curtain is pulled down on her mid-performance, and then she is not part of the rest of the movie, yet that actress is recorded in that movie, so she got the part and is remembered. That picture might perhaps get reproduced in an article on AI somewhere, sometime and it may get accompanied by a Journalist's Downbeat Quip but it would still have been mentioned and printed in the article.
I remember a feature in one episode of a television show called "That's Life" many years ago where fun was poked at a publication about people where basically it seems that if someone paid a fee then the person could have a page about themself in the book and got a copy of the book. So if I remember correctly there was a page quoted about a man who ran a small filling station somewhere in the American Mid-West. Yet, I wonder where those books are now? Are they family heirlooms, are they in local history collections, is one in The Library of Congress? And the programme did inform me of the existence of the book and I thought about its concept and its implications, then and now.
That first picture of the cranes and Saturn. There is the possibility that I will use Affinity Designer software to enlarge that picture and place it on an A3 size canvas and then produce an A3 size PDF document and then get five copies printed in colour on 350 gsm paper. Yet hush, would I dare say so?
And yes, this reply does ramble, it does jump from topic to topic in a way that some people may find peculiar, yet that is a matter for them, yet this is my reply and it makes logical sense to me. ... Yes, I know, I know.
The prompt was as follows.
Please produce an original impressionist painting of some crane birds in front of Saturn.
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