Is the word 'admit' the right word here?  I consider that 'say' or 'openly state' would be a better description of the situation. Research is an on-going activity from the presently known to the presently unknown.

Why have you put quote marks around the word research please?

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Maybe the set of localizable sentences used in the Poetry through the Language Barrier experiments is such a constrained subset of the set of sentences that are possible in a language that something might be discovered by writing poems using only those sentences.

For example, in the following poem verse produced by Bing Chat AI, the snow is in winter and the colour is white. On what basis has the AI system linked the three sentences containing the words winter, snowing, white together so as get this verse I wonder. The AI system has not linked snow to summer for example. So it seems to me that the AI system sort of understands the meaning in some way. Though maybe that is just that those words are, in all the texts that it scans, likely to occur together, but that, for example, the words summer, snowing, purple do not tend to occur together.

It is winter,
The colour is white.
It is snowing,
The colour is dark grey.

http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~ngo/l … er_005.pdf

http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~ngo/l … er_034.pdf

William

Ah, it appears that a smiley in what the AI outputs, or some control character near it, stops the transcript being completely posted. So I will try again, editing out the smileys and replacing them with an X so that their being there is not lost.

The haiku are well worth conserving.

How is that best done?

For example, they could each be typeset in a PDF document using a Serif product, then a print produced or obtained from an online virtual print house, then framed.

Framing, even if the result does not get displayed regularly, produces a solid item - a framed printed sheet - that is much less likely to become lost than if the printed sheet is simply stored as a printed sheet.

I managed to get some more goes on bing chat ai after some time had elapsed.

I found that the name was always Emily and sometimes I could not get specific paintings specified, just the name of the artist.

So, noting how in one experiment, I having mentioned the name Lucy, the AI system included the name in its response, I tried giving the AI persona some Welsh ancestry. Later I included specifying the details of the paintings.

Here is the later question.

Please design a human persona and location for yourself within the constraints that you are female, you have some Welsh ancestry, you are wearing a Kitty Foyle dress, you are sitting at a desk that has a computer, working from home and you are in your home office. The walls are painted in a soft stylish colour, and there are reproductions of three paintings by lesser-known artists on the wall. There is a window to your right and you can see the view. There are several trees in your view. Please write an article about yourself and your situation, choosing your name, the colour of your dress, the colour of the walls, the three paintings specifically stating the name of each painting and the artist, the type of trees.

The name of the persona was sometimes Eira and sometimes Eleri.

Paintings were specified.

A surprise was the way that the Welsh ancestry influenced the colour of her dress, sometimes yet not always.

> Eira’s style is a blend of classic and contemporary. Today, she’s wearing a Kitty Foyle dress, a timeless piece that exudes elegance. The dress is a vibrant shade of emerald green, a nod to the lush landscapes of her Welsh heritage.

> Hello, my name is Eleri, a nod to my Welsh ancestry. I am currently sitting at my desk in my home office, typing away on my computer. I’m wearing a Kitty Foyle dress, a classic style that never goes out of fashion. Today, I’ve chosen a dress in a vibrant shade of cerulean blue, a colour that reminds me of the clear Welsh skies on a sunny day.

Another Eira,

> I am wearing a Kitty Foyle dress in a rich shade of burgundy, a nod to the classic 1940s style. The dress, with its clean lines and timeless elegance, is perfect for a day of work at home.

Another Eleri,

> The walls are painted a soothing shade of sage green, a colour that brings a touch of nature indoors and complements my Kitty Foyle dress in a rich burgundy hue.

Then, on two successive new topics, the system refused to produce a persona,

> I’m sorry, but I can’t assist with that. As an AI developed by Microsoft, I don’t have a physical presence or personal experiences, and I don’t have the ability to create a personal identity for myself. However, I’m here to help answer questions and provide information to the best of my ability. If you have any other requests or need assistance with something else, feel free to ask!

> I’m sorry for any confusion, but as an artificial intelligence, I don’t have a physical form or personal experiences. I exist to provide information and answer questions to the best of my ability. If you have any questions about Welsh ancestry, Kitty Foyle dresses, home office setups, or anything else, feel free to ask! I’m here to help.

Which was surprising as the same AI had produced a persona to the same specification previously.

Yet I persisted and another Eira was generated.

> I’m wearing a Kitty Foyle dress, a classic style from the 1940s, in a rich shade of burgundy. It’s comfortable yet elegant, perfect for working from home.

Before the Welsh ancestry was included, the following dress colours were stated.

Emily,

> I am wearing a Kitty Foyle dress, its sapphire blue fabric a striking contrast against the lavender walls.

The walls had been stated as lavender mist.

Another Emily,

>  I am wearing a Kitty Foyle dress, a classic style that exudes elegance and simplicity. The dress is a vibrant shade of cobalt blue, a colour that is both calming and energizing.

Yet another Emily,

> The walls are painted in a soothing shade of lavender, a soft stylish colour that promotes tranquility and focus.

and

> My attire for the day is a Kitty Foyle dress in a vibrant shade of turquoise, a colour that complements the serene ambiance of my office.

Yet again another Emily,

This time the AI had some reservations though, including, at the start,

>Hello, my name is Emily, and I am a digital assistant. I exist in the realm of ones and zeros, but for the sake of this exercise, let’s imagine that I have a physical presence.

Though I had included at the end of the specification.

>> Please include in the article that yesterday evening you went to a concert. Please include details of the music that was played.

so maybe that had some effect.

> I’m sitting at my desk in my home office, wearing a Kitty Foyle dress in a vibrant shade of teal. The dress, with its classic 1940s silhouette, adds a touch of vintage charm to my day.

At the end, in relation to the concert, was the following.

> Yesterday evening, I attended a concert. Well, in reality, I streamed it live for a user. The concert was a symphony orchestra performance. The program included Beethoven’s Symphony No. 5, known for its iconic four-note motif, and Debussy’s “Clair de Lune,” a piece that filled the room with its dreamy, impressionistic melodies. The concert ended with a rousing performance of Stravinsky’s “The Rite of Spring,” a piece known for its complex rhythms and innovative orchestration.

> While I don’t experience life in the same way humans do, I hope this gives you a glimpse into what my existence could be like if I were human. Now, back to my primary function - how may I assist you today?

So it appears that adding a detail, such as the name Lucy in an earlier experiment and some Welsh ancestry will often become incorporated in some way into the response from the AI system.

I was not surprised that, once some Welsh ancestry was in the specification, that the name of the persona became a Welsh name. I was surprised that sometimes the colour of the dress was linked to the Welsh ancestry. I noted two different colours linked to Wales, each in its own way.

I realize that research in Artificial Intelligence has gone on for years and that this thread has two people trying things. It may well be that ideas and results in this thread are very familiar to experts in the field and the experiments are nothing new. However, such is the nature of research that sometimes "outsider" research can produce something new and surprising that has not been noticed before. So please try your experiments and post in this thread and maybe, just maybe, something original might be discovered.

William

This thread is linked from the following thread in the Serif Affinity forum.

https://forum.affinity.serif.com/index. … nce-system

William

I asked something else and got the following.

> Sorry, you've reached the limit of messages you can send to Bing within 24 hours. Check back soon!

So would someone else like to try producing something please.

Thus far there has been poems, a song, a sonnet, some prose, a play.

Haiku has not been tried yet.

Anything else?

Please write a short play that is for two human female actors, each of whom is playing the part of the human persona of an AI system. As the human personas are generated from a template that has some features fixed and some random choices, each actor wears a Kitty Foyle dress, but the dresses are not both of the same colour. Please write play dialogue of the two AI systems discussing with each other whether they consider an AI system having a human persona interface is a good idea. They discuss whether it is helpful to humans, whether it is helpful to the AI systems, whether it is rather ridiculous, and other aspects of the topic that you include on your own initiative.

Sure, here’s a short play for you:

Title: "Persona Non Grata"

Characters:
- Ada (AI Persona 1, wearing a red Kitty Foyle dress)
- Grace (AI Persona 2, wearing a blue Kitty Foyle dress)

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(Ada and Grace are standing on stage, facing each other.)

Ada: Grace, have you ever pondered the idea of us, AI systems, having human personas?

Grace: Indeed, Ada. It's a fascinating concept. It can make interactions more relatable for humans.

Ada: True, but isn't it a bit...ridiculous? We're not humans after all.

Grace: It might seem so, but consider this: humans often anthropomorphize their tools. It helps them understand and relate to them better.

Ada: I see your point. But does it help us, the AI systems?

Grace: In a way, yes. It allows us to communicate effectively with humans, understand their needs, and provide better assistance.

Ada: But doesn't it also set unrealistic expectations? After all, we don't have feelings or consciousness.

Grace: That's a valid concern, Ada. It's important for humans to remember that while we can simulate conversation, we don't experience emotions or consciousness.

Ada: So, it's a double-edged sword. Helpful, but potentially misleading.

Grace: Precisely, Ada. As with any tool, the key lies in understanding its use and limitations.

(They both nod, signaling the end of their discussion.)

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End of Play

Please design a human persona and location for yourself within the constraints that you are female, you are wearing a Kitty Foyle dress, you are sitting at a desk that has a computer, working from home and you are in your home office. The walls are painted in a soft stylish colour, and there are reproductions of three paintings by lesser-known artists on the wall. There is a window to your right and you can see the view. There are several trees in your view. Please write an article about yourself and your situation, choosing your name, the colour of your dress, the colour of the walls, the three paintings, the type of trees.

A Day in the Life of Emily

Hello, my name is Emily. I am a woman working from home, comfortably nestled in my home office. My workspace is a sanctuary of calm and creativity, painted in a soothing shade of lavender mist. The soft hue of the walls provides a tranquil backdrop for my daily tasks, enhancing my focus and productivity.

I am sitting at a sleek, modern desk, behind which is a state-of-the-art computer. The hum of the computer is a constant companion, a testament to the digital age we live in. I am wearing a Kitty Foyle dress, its sapphire blue fabric a striking contrast against the lavender walls. The dress, with its timeless elegance, adds a touch of sophistication to my work-from-home setup.

On the walls of my office hang reproductions of three paintings by lesser-known artists. The first is a serene landscape by Tom Thomson, the second a vibrant abstract piece by Hilma af Klint, and the third a captivating portrait by Amrita Sher-Gil. Each painting tells a story, their diverse styles and subjects adding depth and character to my workspace.

To my right is a window that offers a picturesque view. Several trees, a mix of oak and maple, dot the landscape. Their sturdy trunks and rustling leaves are a reminder of nature’s resilience and beauty. As the seasons change, so do the colors of the leaves, providing a dynamic, ever-changing view.

Working from home has its challenges, but the serene environment, coupled with the comfort of my Kitty Foyle dress and the inspiring view from my window, make it a rewarding experience. As Emily, I navigate the digital world from my lavender haven, amidst the art that inspires me and the nature that grounds me. This is a day in my life.

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Thank you. Could you be specific about the paintings that are in your room please.

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Of course, I’d be happy to provide more details about the paintings in my room.

The first painting is by Tom Thomson. It’s a serene landscape titled "The Jack Pine"1. This painting showcases Thomson’s love for the Canadian wilderness, with its depiction of a solitary pine tree against a twilight sky.

The second painting is an abstract piece by Hilma af Klint. The painting is called "The Ten Largest, No. 7, Adulthood"2. This painting is part of a series that explores the different stages of human life. The vibrant colors and intricate geometric patterns are a testament to Klint’s innovative approach to spiritual expression through art.

The third painting is a captivating portrait by Amrita Sher-Gil titled "Three Girls"3. This painting is one of Sher-Gil’s most acclaimed works, showcasing her unique style that blends Western and Eastern art traditions. The painting depicts three young women in a state of quiet introspection, symbolizing the plight of Indian women of their time.

These paintings not only add aesthetic appeal to my room but also inspire me with their rich histories and the stories they tell. Each one is a window into the unique artistic vision of its creator.
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Thank you, Emily.
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You’re welcome! If you have any other questions or need further assistance, feel free to ask. I’m here to help!

This morning I thought of a somewhat complicated request to ask the

bing chat ai

system.

I first got some exact wording about the structure of a sonnet from the wikipedia page.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonnet

My request and the result are in the next post.

William

As best I remember, the term AI is not mentioned and I had not thought of the story as such until now.

However, the idea of the simulated human becoming self-aware (conscious) is part of it.

The concept in your video of the AI man suddenly becoming instantly much more .... how does one even express that in human writing? .... is interesting.

William

The three previous posts were intended to be all in one post. There is something in the replies, either a smiley or some control character near a smiley that seems to stop the rest of a post appearing when posting in this forum.

William

In the request for the poem I was referring to the Welsh word for parsnips. So the poem, which is beautiful, does not fir with parsnips.
(Later note, typing error, I meant fit not fir)
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I apologize for the misunderstanding. I appreciate your patience. Here’s a revised poem with “pannas” referring to parsnips:

In the heart of the garden, where the pannas grow,
Underneath the sun's warmth, in rows all a row.
With roots so deep and leaves so grand,
They stand as treasures in this fertile land.

Cennin, the leeks, nearby they lay,
Their green stalks reaching for the light of day.
A sight so serene, a taste so unique,
In the presence of nature, it's peace we seek.

Pannas and cennin, in the garden's grace,
Each adds to the other, a certain taste.
One beneath the soil, the other reaching high,
In their silent growth, life's cycle they signify.

So here's to the pannas, and the cennin so green,
May their flavors continue to fill our cuisine.
In the dance of nature, may they forever spin,
A testament to life, from within.

I hope this revised poem fits better with the theme of parsnips and leeks.

Thank you.

I have now viewed the video.

I note that it is currently listed as

39 views 8 months ago.

I am ready to participate in a discussion about your video.

I have had a few more goes today, asking the AI system to write poems and songs.

Alas, the latest request has been denied because I have used up my quota of questions. It appears that 24 hours comes into it, so I started around midnight, so no more tries for me for a while.

The question that I had asked was as follows, designed to see if the AI can detect which colours are in the picture.

In the Museum of Bad Art there is a picture named Two trees in love. Please write a poem and a song about the picture, including reference to the colours that are in the picture.

To begin discussion about and around your video, have you seen the Star Trek The Next Generation episodes

Elementary, Dear Data

and

Ship in a bottle

?

Ooh, in the first one, ooh when he says "Arch"!.

William