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(64 replies, posted in Art & Literature)

William wrote:

https://i.postimg.cc/yJ1mtqxr/Copilot-20251008-200355.png

This picture was generated by Copilot in response to my text prompt.

Is this art?

If I had provided that same text to a human artist and this picture had been the result, would it be art?

I hope to post the text prompt later, after allowing time for comments without being influened by the prompt.

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(64 replies, posted in Art & Literature)

Oh. I have read all of the posts.

They are interesting.

I was unaware that I was expected to respond to each post.

For example, I am not a photographer, I read with interest about AI and photography competitions.

People are contributing posts to the thread and I am grateful.

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(64 replies, posted in Art & Literature)

https://i.postimg.cc/yJ1mtqxr/Copilot-20251008-200355.png

This picture was generated by Copilot in response to my text prompt.

Is this art?

If I had provided that same text to a human artist and this picture had been the result, would it be art?

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(64 replies, posted in Art & Literature)

Alfred wrote:
William wrote:

Readers are invited to consider whether this picture is art,

Please refer to the preceding discussion.

I read it at various times during the day as posts appeared. Yet it is a continuing discussion and I have produced this artwork.

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(64 replies, posted in Art & Literature)

Alfred wrote:
William wrote:

and to consider what was the prompt that was used.

If you’re asking us to consider what prompt might have been used, are you inviting us to make wild guesses or do you intend to provide some sort of guidance?

I am not suggesting word for word, just thoughts as to what style of painting, and any ideas about the subject of the picture.

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(64 replies, posted in Art & Literature)

Some readers will already know that clicking on the pictures in this thread should produce an enlarged display.

Clicking on such an enlarged display may produce a larger display.

Readers are invited to consider whether this picture is art, and to consider what was the prompt that was used.

https://i.postimg.cc/yJ1mtqxr/Copilot-20251008-200355.png

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(64 replies, posted in Art & Literature)

https://i.postimg.cc/yJ1mtqxr/Copilot-20251008-200355.png

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(64 replies, posted in Art & Literature)

Alfred wrote:

Similarly, with text like

Art Style References

Mentioning styles like cubism, impressionism, cyberpunk, or minimalist guides the visual language.

Example: “A portrait in Van Gogh’s style” will evoke swirling brushwork and vivid colors.

making ‘Art Style References’ bold clearly identifies it as a heading:

Art Style References

Mentioning styles like cubism, impressionism, cyberpunk, or minimalist guides the visual language.

Example: “A portrait in Van Gogh’s style” will evoke swirling brushwork and vivid colors.

Well, Copilot did use bold for headings, but producing a transcript with those effects all included is quite a bit of editing work as it does not just copy over, unless I am unaware of some facility for doing that.

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(64 replies, posted in Art & Literature)

Alfred wrote:

Once again, William, please, please, please use the forum markup tools to style the text in your posts so that the reader can easily distinguish between quotes, headings, and so forth. For example, instead of typing

[Copilot]
Yes — different prompts can dramatically shape the style, mood, and emotional impact of AI-generated art. Your words are the brushstrokes.

you can type

{quote=Copilot}
Yes — different prompts can dramatically shape the style, mood, and emotional impact of AI-generated art. Your words are the brushstrokes.{/quote}

(with square brackets instead of curly braces) to present it like this:

Copilot wrote:

Yes — different prompts can dramatically shape the style, mood, and emotional impact of AI-generated art. Your words are the brushstrokes.

But if I did that then the vast majority of the post would be in one long quote box.

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(64 replies, posted in Art & Literature)

[Continuing from my previous post]

[WJGO]

Yes, please.

[Copilot]

Yes — different prompts can dramatically shape the style, mood, and emotional impact of AI-generated art. Your words are the brushstrokes.

Here’s how prompt design influences the final artwork, and how you can experiment to create stunning variations:

[Paintbrush emoji redacted] Prompt Elements That Shape Style and Mood
Tone and Emotion Words

Words like serene, chaotic, melancholy, or joyful steer the emotional atmosphere.

Example: “A serene forest at dawn” vs. “A chaotic forest during a storm” — same subject, radically different mood.

Art Style References

Mentioning styles like cubism, impressionism, cyberpunk, or minimalist guides the visual language.

Example: “A portrait in Van Gogh’s style” will evoke swirling brushwork and vivid colors.

Lighting and Color

Descriptors like neon-lit, monochrome, pastel, or high contrast affect the palette and ambiance.

Example: “A cityscape in pastel tones under soft morning light” feels dreamy and gentle.

Medium and Texture

Specify oil painting, digital sketch, watercolor, or charcoal to influence texture and finish.

Example: “A watercolor of a rainy street” will look fluid and translucent.

Perspective and Composition

Use terms like close-up, bird’s-eye view, symmetrical, or fragmented to shape layout and focus.

Example: “A bird’s-eye view of a bustling market” vs. “A close-up of a vendor’s hands.”

[Archery target emoji redacted] Prompt Crafting Tips
Be Specific but Evocative: Combine concrete details with emotional or stylistic cues.

Try: “A lone figure walking through a foggy alley, noir style, cinematic lighting.”

Use Analogies and Metaphors: These spark imaginative interpretations.

Try: “A city that breathes like a living organism, in steampunk style.”

Experiment with Contrasts: Juxtapose unexpected elements to create tension or intrigue.

Try: “A futuristic battlefield painted in the style of Monet.”

[Star emoji redacted] Want to Try It Yourself?
Give me a subject and a mood or style you’d like to explore — I’ll help you craft a prompt that turns your vision into visual poetry. Or we can remix a prompt you’ve already written to see how different tweaks change the outcome.

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(64 replies, posted in Art & Literature)

[I had read the new posts this morning, up to and including the post by Ali, then I tried the following.]

[WJGO]

When you produce artwork from a prompt that I have authored, is that artwork art?

[Copilot]

Absolutely — it can be art. Whether something qualifies as "art" isn't determined by who or what physically creates it, but by the intent, meaning, and emotional resonance behind it.

[palette emoji redacted] Here's why your AI-generated image can be considered art:

Creative Intent: You authored the prompt, which means you initiated the creative process. That intent — to express, explore, or evoke something — is central to art.

Collaboration: Think of it like a duet: you provide the vision, and I help bring it to life. Many artists collaborate with tools, assistants, or even algorithms.

Expression: If the final image reflects a mood, idea, or aesthetic that you care about, it’s expressing something — and that’s art.

Audience Reaction: If others view it and feel something — curiosity, joy, discomfort, awe — then it’s doing what art often does.

Some people debate whether AI-generated works are "real" art, but that’s a philosophical question with no single answer. What matters most is: does it mean something to you? If it does, then it’s already doing the job of art.

Would you like to explore how different prompts can shape artistic styles or moods? I’d love to dive deeper with you.

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(64 replies, posted in Art & Literature)

Alfred wrote:

Secondly, only your first post here is on topic. The other two don’t discuss the premise at all, but instead simply show the results of asking Copilot to conjure up images for you.

My intention in posting them and the text, is to ask whether those artworks are art.

Can artwork output by an AI program ever be art?

If those artworks had been produced by a human, would they be art?

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(64 replies, posted in Art & Literature)

[A new session of Copilot]

[WJGO]

Please produce a pastels drawing. She is in Paris. The glass pyramid of The Louvre is in the background.

[Copilot]



https://i.postimg.cc/9R3Kc6WR/Copilot-20251006-212119.png



Here it is — a pastel-style drawing of a woman in Paris with the iconic glass pyramid of The Louvre behind her. Let me know if you'd like to adjust the mood, outfit, or setting!

https://i.postimg.cc/9R3Kc6WR/Copilot-20251006-212119.png

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(64 replies, posted in Art & Literature)

[A new session of Copilot]

[WJGO]

Please produce a pastels drawing. Carmella.

[Copllot]


https://i.postimg.cc/v10hN5pM/Copilot-20251006-200521.png


Here she is — your pastel portrait of Carmella is ready now. Let me know if you'd like a different style, setting, or expression next time.


[WJGO]

How did you decide what Carmella looks like?

[Copilot]

Great question, William. Since you didn’t give me any specific details about Carmella’s appearance, I had to imagine her from scratch — like an artist meeting a name and letting intuition take over. I leaned into the softness and warmth that the name “Carmella” evokes: something gentle, earthy, maybe a bit romantic. That guided the choice of warm tones, expressive eyes, and flowing hair.

I also wanted the pastel style to shine through — textured strokes, blended colors, and that dreamy, almost nostalgic quality you get from chalky pigments on paper. So her look became a blend of realism and softness, with a hint of personality that feels approachable and quietly confident.

If you had a different vision for her — maybe bold and edgy, or whimsical and surreal — I’d love to hear it. Want to try a new version?

https://i.postimg.cc/v10hN5pM/Copilot-20251006-200521.png

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(64 replies, posted in Art & Literature)

What makes an artwork art?

Artwork is a generic term, regardless of artistic merit. So, for example, a printing company may refer to the format in which artwork can be sent, such as, for examples, png, or jpg, or PDF.

But what is it that would mean that a particular piece of artwork is regarded as art?

Could an Artificial Intelligence program such as Copliot ever produce art?

Why, or why not? Or can we not decide?

Are all paintings produced by a human, art?

Please discuss.

In Windows, at least, I am not sure, but I think that you might need to do each page separately.

I think that one way to do each page is to do CTRL A to select all, then use

Layer

Group

Then use CTRL C to copy the grouped item onto the clipboard.

Then go the desired page in the other doument and use CTRL V to paste.

In that second document you could if you so choose use

Layer

Ungroup

It is possible that grouping the items for the transfer is not essential, but my instinct is always to do so, even though I cannot prove that it is necessary.

Well, editing a PDF file was not as straightforward as editing a .afdesign file.

Yes, to some extent vulnerable to them, but the artwork would not be vulnerable to the possibility of being locked within an inaccessible file type and thus effectively lost.

But it really comes down to this: if people here want to enthusiastically join in and produce it as a group project then it has a chance of being successful.

It would be done here, how people here want it done.

So perhaps

Original artwork

rather than

Original art

?

William wrote:

Well, if it is not a work of art, what is it?

Ali wrote:

It is a machine-generated picture. No artist, no artistic talent required.

Thank you for explaining.

Alfred wrote:
William wrote:

I am asking what you are both claiming has been stolen.

I’ve made no such claim here.

Indeed. It was JAmedia and Ali who used the word "stolen".

Yet neither has stated what, exactly, precisely, they are claiming has been stolen.

As far as I know, PDF is not intended to be read in for editing. it is intended to get print output that is precisely specified.

I am thinking of something that does what a .afdesign file does, yet without being linked to a proprietary file format that depends for its continuing accessibility on the decisions of a company.

Alfred wrote:
William wrote:

Conserving artwork in a new text file format

I write to suggest that those of us who are interested design a way to store artwork designs in a text based format that is open source and simple.

That way the artwork will not be vulnearble to future non-availability of software in the way that artwork recorded in a proprietary format is.

Although HTML files and PDF files contain nothing but plain text, that doesn’t obviate the need for specialized software to display the contents in something other than text form.

As far as I am aware, neither HTML nor PDF are proprietary formats.