jackneve wrote:

I think this is the nearest to your problem.

Socially is an adverb, and distanced is an adjective. So you don't need the hyphen.

Also it is clear socially doesn't modify parcel, but I suppose it could be properly modifying delivery.

I was quite surprised to learn that 'socially' is an adverb.

Thinking about it, one can dance socially at a social dance, but one cannot have a 'socially dance'.

I have found that socially distanced, no hyphen, is in the Oxford Dicitionary as an adjective, notwithstanding that socially is listed as an adverb.

https://www.lexico.com/definition/socially

https://www.lexico.com/definition/socially_distanced

And, as you wrote, no hyphen.

Thank you again.

William

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Ah, it appears that uploading images needs to be specifically enabled by the administrator.

https://punster.me/wiki/pmwiki.php?n=Pm … loadsAdmin

I opine that it is advisible to set it up so that only registered forum members can upload images, or edit the wiki.

William

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I have made a 200 pixel by 200 pixel png file in Microsoft Paint. I use awaiting.png as the name of the png file.

It is on my computer.

How do I get it to be in one of the places reserved for picture display in tha Art Gallery please?

I have found the part about images in the documentation.

I tried

Attach:awaiting.png

in the Sandbox.

But that on its own is not suficient.

I am trying to work it out, but I don't understand how to do it at present.

William

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I have started to try to set up a simulation of an art gallery.

It is linked from the main page of the wiki. Please join in and edit it as you wish so as to try to get something good as a team effort.

William

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Thank you.

Now going to try it.

I noted your previous post about tables being possible. Thank you.

William

Thank you.

William

While trying to find if it should be

socially distanced parcel delivery

or

socially-distanced parcel delivery

I found the following.

What’s the difference between physical distancing and social distancing?

at

https://www.geisinger.org/health-and-we … distancing

Interesting.

I have not yet found the answer to my original question though.

William

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It seems that what I am suggesting is possibly called

web-based non-immersive virtual reality

William

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So what I have suggested could, I think, probably be done with HTML on a website.

Can it be done in a wiki? Is a wiki just text and stand-alone images or can one use HTML structures such as a table?

The next stage, if it is possible, is to move that wall from being a flat view that one can move along sideways by using a horizontal scroll bar, to become a perspective view wall going into the distance and be able to move into using key presses, perhaps i for inwards and o for outwards, or my mouse clicks like in Google streetview.

Is there any free, easy to use, web-based third peron view virtual world software available?

I'll try and have a look, other readers might like to look too and collate what we find please.

William

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Alfred wrote:
William wrote:

@Alfred Is your webspace capable of hosting more than this forum please?

Such as a wiki where registered participants of this forum could generate pages and edit any pages?

Or some sort of 3d wiki?

I could easily install something like PmWiki, but I’m not at all sure what “some sort of 3D wiki” might be.

I suppose that there is a spectrum, ranging from, do nothing and there is just a blank screen as the result,  through to a simulation that is indistinguishable from a live television broadcast of a look around a real art gallery with the cameraperson acting upon requests from the viewer.

So whatever we, as forum participants with whatever facilities become available, can produce will be somewhere along that spectrum, hopefully more than the blank screen but much less, at present, than the indistinguishable simulation.

So, how far can we get?

For example, now, I can envisage a wiki page set up as a long wall of an art gallery that one needs to scroll horizontally along, with the wall having many frames, each with a blank solid grey picture in it at the start. So, possibly something like a one row many columns HTML table each cell having a preset image in it with a specified size in pixels, with the whole page has a deep red background, as in some art galleries.

Then registered participants can, if they so choose, produce an image of that size and edit the wikip page and in a picture frame of his or her choice, change the picture in that frame from the blank grey page to his or her own picture.

The specification should, I suggest, be such that people with just minimum facilities can participate.

So although participants can use whatever software they have available to produce a picture, the picture specification should be such that it is possible to take part even if one only has Microsoft Paint, which is bundled with Windows, available.

So what size the pictures?

Well, how about landscape format 724 pixels wide by 524 pixels high.

The reason I suggest that size is because it is a one third size both horizontally and vertically of the size that I use to produce artwork for producing one-off hardcopy greetings cards using an online facility. That is, the resilt is 7 inches by 5 inches, at 300 dots per inch, after physical cropping.

Other pages could have other sizes.

So, then one could move from wiki page to wiki page, yet could that be set up so that the wall has an image of a door in it and one clicks on the door to move to another room in the art gallery rather than clicking on a text link. Maybe a picture of a door to start, later on maybe an open archway with a view through to another room, so that, say a miniature view of a part of the wall of the next gallery showing the two or three rightmost pictures in minature as if being viewed from a distance.

Yet that is what I can suggest now.

But if it is implemented and people have a go at it and produce something, then with the experience gained we might be able to think of something further that I cannot imagine at the moment.

So, going bit by bit, and adding, where we get to may be far further than we can imagine at the moment.

I know that a specific size is a constraint, but a constraint can sometimes help creativity.

For example, if a creative writing class is set a task "Write a poem" then where does one start,
yet if the class is set the task of writing a haiku, three lines, first and third line each having five syllables, he middle line seven syllables, and the action is happening now, as in 'now' being when the haiku is being read or being performed, then those constraints assist creativity.

William

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jackneve wrote:

In the old days Control H was used to backspace, as in delete, when keying text.

control H as been Find and Replace for all the years I remember.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backspace#^H

William

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@Alfred Is your webspace capable of hosting more than this forum please?

Such as a wiki where registered participants of this forum could generate pages and edit any pages?

Or some sort of 3d wiki?

Sort of like video adventure game technology but where we could try to build something like an art gallery where people could walk around, or an arboretum, or maybe a simulation of a railway or whatever?

Is there any free software out there that you could use to set this up - provided you opine that it is a good idea.

William

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William wrote:

I wonder what it takes or needs tosuch an online environment.

Could Alfred host a harmless one for us to play with^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H smile gain experience of the technology?

Alfred wrote:

I think you’ll need to edit your post for there to be any hope of other users understanding what you were trying to say.

Ah yes.

It was (my attempt at) old times computer humour.

In the old days Control H was used to backspace, as in delete, when keying text.

My attempt at humour was that the formal message is as follows.

Could Alfred host a harmless one for us to gain experience of the technology.

But I put in

play with

followed nine times by how Control H was represented in descriptive text, as a sort of Freudian slip that although the formal idea is to gain experience it is (also) to have fun learning.

Though very often having fun with trying to do novel things with a new technology, things not envisaged by the producers of the technology, can be a good way to learn and lead to one being able to apply the new technology in serious applications.

William

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The most realistic part of how it was to use, when in motion, is as follows.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bq_1NW6cNYY&t=225s

But one could stop with a static view, and look around by rotating the view slowly.

William

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Here is a playlist of VioS videos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MN-bn4I … 336B0B30E3

Is there any free software out there, such as for games, that could be configured by Alfred for producing such a system?

William

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I have been reading the following.

https://news.sky.com/story/metaverse-yo … s-12593796

Admin edit: (“Metaverse: You can't walk on this land or build a house, but plots are still selling for thousands of pounds”)

I would possibly have a go if it were £10.

Can we discuss this topic please?

I wonder what it takes or needs tosuch an online environment.

Could Alfred host a harmless one for us to play with^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H smile gain experience of the technology?

It reminds me of the ViOS system from 2001. That did not take off then. But that was over 20 years ago.

https://computer.howstuffworks.com/vios.htm

I searched on YouTube in case there are now videos. There are.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rj-0L88y87o

Searching for

ViOS

as such is problematic as there is a car named Vios, however, searching for

ViOS Lombardi

gets results.

Some of the adverts give the impression of it moving around fast, but it is not like that.

Does anyone remember when the graphical web was first about that television programmes would show pages fast scrolling as the loaded, but in reality, as here, pages are static and move only when a user wants them to move?

So the view was static unless one chose to walk around. Sort of like moving around in Google streetview except one could virtually walk and the landscape changed with each step, unlike with Google streetview where movement is in steps of maybe ten feet or more at each click of the mouse unit or pointer.

Also, one could use the software offline and build one's own area, though noone else could access it.

I enjoyed doing that, including one structure on the sea bed.

William

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The Vegan Society welcomes and celebrates the Animal Welfare (Sentience) Bill passing its final parliamentary stage on 8 April 2022.

https://www.vegansociety.com/news/news/ … nce-uk-law

William

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Do those who learned some French at school by any chance remember the text book that I remember? Alas I do not know its title. If I could find it I might well buy a copy as I would like to have another go at it.

There were stories.

I remember one was about, possibly in pre-revolution France, how villagers with small vineyards were obliged to take a small barrel of the wine that they had produced and pour it into a huge barrel at the Bishop's palace, so that the Bishop had a supply of wine for himself and his guests.

A villager was taking his barrel of wine when he met another village on his way back, laughing.

He bragged that he had taken a barrel of water and tipped it in and purported that nobody would notice it amongst the rest of the wine.

Well, the man who heard this decided to do the same and the story spread.

The Bishop and his guests ended up drinking glasses of water because all of the villagers had done the same.

Another story was about two men who went into a café and each ordered fish. The waiter brought a plate each and a bowl with two pieces of fish, one large, one small.

One man insisted "After you" and the other man chose the larger piece of fish.

The first man protested that if he had gone first then as good manners he would have chosen the smaller piece of fish.

The second man said that he (the first man) had got the small piece so he had got what he would have chosen.

Each story was illustrated with a single line drawing, one of a Bishop and his guests drinking, and the other of the two men sat at the table.

There was another story, Le prestidigitateur, the conjurer, but I do not remember that apart from the title.

There may well have been other stories too.

I have no idea whether many schools across the country were using the same textbook.

William

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Until I read the following post I had never known of 'picture password'.

https://corp.unicode.org/pipermail/unic … 10123.html

Does anyone here have experience of Microsoft 'picture password' please?

William

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Thank you all.

My broadband speed seems to have picked up now.

William

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My internet is very slow today.

Is the slowness general or just here please?

William

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I sent a reply.

https://corp.unicode.org/pipermail/unic … 10119.html

William

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Thank you.

I have saved it as

lady_with_a_tote_bag_blue_dress_mod_Alfred.svg

so as not to overwrite the original.

I have not opened it yet.

What is the "simplifying" please?

William

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Yes, thanks, I might then just need to add the reverse view bag at the correct size and draw her left hand anew.

William

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Alfred wrote:
William wrote:

Do you by any chance still have on your computer the file that was attached to that post that I deleted please?

I don’t think so. Can’t you use the other SVG files that you attached to later posts in the thread?

William wrote:

The reason I ask is because that file for the obverse of the tote bag could be copied and the copy converted to display the reverse of the tote bag by altering the copy in WordPad.

I’m afraid I don’t understand why you need to use WordPad. What can you do there that you can’t do in AD or APub?

I am seeking the svg graphic of the picture of the lady with the tote bag where the design of the symbol on the tote bag is expressed in a text call to a font.

I may need to start again with drawing a lady.

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When I need to do basic low level text editing I tend to use WordPad.

When I produce HTML files for the web I use WordPad.

WordPad is much underrated by many people. I know it is very basic, but years ago it was the only way for me to access beyond plane zero in a font. Also it is a good way to export files in UTF-16 format.

Also, as WordPad is bundled with Windows it is widely accessible, so chosen for the following format.

http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~ngo/T … tences.pdf

William