https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtvjbmoDx-I

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4MTgjNkfyI

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(4 replies, posted in Art & Literature)

I have found the following video on YouTube.

> You and I - Learn Toki Pona! Lesson 1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J93GWOMbgdg

The Jack Benny Program ep. with Ginger Rogers As Guest

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPyY2U0RPvQ

605

(4 replies, posted in Art & Literature)

Many months later ...

I saw the following linked today and it seemed to "ring a bell" and I found this thread  in Alfred's forum.

https://www.unicode.org/L2/L2024/24275- … n-pona.pdf

William

606

(15 replies, posted in General Discussion)

Robert The Texan wrote:

... I also cannot draw, paint, sculpt, or do any of the other traditional forms of art.

Even within those constraints it is possible to produce art.

On a computer there are various possibilities.

For example, if one uses Affinity Designer one can produce a picture by adding preset shapes filled with colour.

https://punster.me/serif/viewtopic.php?pid=5977#p5977

John Kay's book about Composition is excellent. I have learned a lot from it.

https://punster.me/serif/viewtopic.php?pid=5555#p5555

William

607

(15 replies, posted in General Discussion)

Robert The Texan wrote:

... When I took guitar lessons many years ago with my daughter and my first wife, I was told by our teacher I had great hands for the guitar... but no talent.  He said he wished that HE had hands like mine.  Alas, there was no talent to drive them.

Teachers telling students stuff like that!

I am reminded of a by then former student who came to see me on his graduation day when he had been awarded an honours degree in Electrical and Electronic Engineering.

He told me that a teacher had told him when he was at school that it was no point him applying to a degree course as he would be unable to do it.

William

608

(15 replies, posted in General Discussion)

[The Christmas card in my previous post was produced by using Bing Chat AI. The prompt was as follows.]

Please produce a Christmas card with the following wording. Wishing you a peaceful Christmas.

[I chose that one from the four provided by Bing Chat AI, then trimmed it from its surroundings using the Microsoft Paint program.
]

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(15 replies, posted in General Discussion)

https://i.postimg.cc/NKQ5gLNS/Wishing-you-a-Peaceful-Christmas.jpg

610

(8 replies, posted in Art & Literature)

Clicking the picture then clicking the result produces the original at full size.

William

611

(8 replies, posted in Art & Literature)

Alfred wrote:
William wrote:

Please paint a self-portrait of yourself.

Try asking for a self-portrait of someone else and see where that gets you!

{I prompted using the following.]

Mariposa Prynter is a fictional female character in a novel that is available free to read on the web. Mariposa Prynter is an amateur artist. Please produce a painting that is a self-portrait of Mariposa Prynter.





https://i.postimg.cc/Lns46Xxr/eaa93ebb-f0c4-481a-be7b-42c62647af6b.jpg

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(1,162 replies, posted in MoviePlus)

Hello Ali, it's good to see you here.

William

613

(8 replies, posted in Art & Literature)

[So, today, Monday 23 December 2024, I will try the same prompt again, as a New Topic. I wonder if the pictures will be the same as previously or different from them.]

Please paint a self-portrait of yourself.



https://i.postimg.cc/XB96Bx42/4d37cd8a-04b0-4913-b6e7-bd040e5a909f.jpg



https://i.postimg.cc/Mf7gpTmN/5af5f363-c737-4b05-9317-3b0ba2df7b58.jpg



https://i.postimg.cc/K1P7pTvd/31da9b43-c71b-4fd5-b0fd-7c5608ad345b.jpg



https://i.postimg.cc/BL90SdG8/1edcc0d6-603d-41b3-b698-39e05520a7d4.jpg

The title stated is as follows.

> AI has drawn a self-portrait for the very first time revealing what it thinks it looks like

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/arts/visual-a … r-AA1wbFQY

Hmm.

However, on Saturday 21 December 2024, that inspired me to prompt Bing Chat AI as follows.

Please paint a self-portrait of yourself.

Four pictures were produced.

Yet i am wondering, is that the AI responding to the prompt as an AI as usual, or did the programmers set that up as an exception in some way?

William

https://i.postimg.cc/9wXyDX3z/ab01c55b-5eb6-431f-ab11-db6e3d7d0fb7.jpg



https://i.postimg.cc/xkq7zY2x/d17eaa6d-7f85-4da0-9316-bc96db17dc80.jpg



https://i.postimg.cc/vxDLP80k/636ac977-f905-4003-a331-d74eab1225cf.jpg


https://i.postimg.cc/Y499L405/2198a1c4-a991-4c54-9979-2997306d99b9.jpg

It is not a caption, it is a prompt.

And the word 'impressionist' is being used as an adjective.

But, ... er ... upon looking at some photographs of okapi, it appears that the mane shown in the painting my not be present upon an actual okapi, ... as a genteel way of expressing the situation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aI_qtYtItI

William

Are pictures produced using generative AI properly described as Art?

There is a discussion in a well-known forum that includes asking about whether pictures produced using generative AI are properly described as Art.

I have produced pictures using generative AI. In fact, using the Bing Chat AI web-based facility, that facility now named Copilot.

To do that I have used a text prompt. Some text prompts are fairly short, some are longer.

I like to think of myself as an artist, yes, a hobbyist artist.

However, that thinking of myself as an artist is not based on having authored text prompts to an AI program.

Though I have sometimes used my knowledge of art, (as an artist?) in the authoring of a prompt to the AI system, such as by mentioning concepts such as golden ratio and rabatment.

As a side issue, I only learned of rabatment fairly recently, that from learning about it from John Kay's book that John kindly linked to in a post in another thread in this forum.

https://punster.me/serif/viewtopic.php?pid=5555#p5555

Consider please the following image, and the prompt that was input to the AI system that resulted in the generation of that picture, and other pictures.

https://punster.me/serif/viewtopic.php?pid=3876#p3876

I chose that one. I have now got a framed print of the picture - I ordered a square, full-field, what is called a photo greetings card, from Papier.com, though using the image output from the AI system rather than a photograph. That had the effect of enlarging the image to fit and using a little from the edges as bleed areas, so losing those little edge parts. I also have a giclée print on a white background at exact size of 1024 pixels by 1024 pixels at 300 dots per inch on a 7 inch by 5 inch piece of archive quality paper and I opine that it looks really good, though I do not purport to be a "recognized" art critic.

So is it art?

Please discuss. Examples and links to examples are welcome in this discussion.

William

Alfred wrote:

It seems odd that the codes are neither in medal order nor in alphabetical order. I wonder what the rationale was for putting bronze and copper before silver but after gold.

But they are not listed as those metals in The Unicode Standard.

Those allocations as metallics are my own ideas.

I chose to list them so as to be in both medal order and symbols on a page order (as in English usage) and that meant that they are not, in practice, in the same order as in The Unicode Standard.

William

I refer to

https://www.unicode.org/reports/tr51/tr51-27.html#color

I wonder if that could be extended so that four characters from

https://www.unicode.org/chartU+25F1 s/PDF/U25A0.pdf

are used to indicate metallics.

U+25F0 for gold
U+25F3 for silver
U+25F1 for bronze
U+25F2 for copper

Please note that these are not listed here in the same order as in the code chart.

This is so that the small square in these symbols when used as in this suggestion for the metals go in "medal order" like reading words on the page of a book.

William

619

(2 replies, posted in Art & Literature)

> Cloche 300 x 400 mm / 11.8 x 15.7 inch

https://papersizes.net/french/cloche

620

(2 replies, posted in Art & Literature)

I found this page about traditional paper sizes.

https://vintagepaper.co/blogs/news/trad … aper-sizes

621

(2 replies, posted in Art & Literature)

I have found that the paper size 400 millimetres by 300 millimetres is used by some printmakers in England.

It appears to be regarded as a traditional size for paper for drawings and for some frames. Rather than A3, which is a similar size, yet not so long a time a specified size.

Yet it appears to be a French size.

The name Cloche (Bell in English) being because at one time (some of?) the paper of that size had a watermark of a bell.

https://papersdb.com/french/cloche

Yet the metre as a unit of measurement is not that old in terms of art traditions.

I am wondering why this size is used in England.

William

William wrote:

A 2 hours 41 minutes 25 seconds video of President Macron visiting the restored Notre Dame Cathedral on Friday 29 November 2024.

The video is in French with French subtitles.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vs4S5KSPo3A

Following Alfred's post I found that there are English subtitles.

Regarding the Crown of Thorns, there is a sequence in the above video where the place where the Crown of Thorns is now displayed is shown and discussed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vs4S5KSPo3A&t=5230s

William

A video entitled as follows.

> 'Crown of Thorns' returns to Paris' restored Notre Dame cathedral for public veneration

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sn1Tvgp7DPc

A video entitled as follows.

> LIVE: Outside Notre Dame as ‘Crown of Thorns’ is returned to the cathedral

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWwnOIrk-CI

A video entitled as follows.

> Arrivée de la couronne d’épines à Notre dame

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDspejmJrpE

Given the above information, can you work out what the following code is intended to represent please?

Unit, Metre;
-1, -1, 0, MovePen;
1, -1, 0, DrawLine;
1, -1, 2, DrawLine
-1, -1, 2, CloseLoopAndFillWithColour, Blue;
-1, -2, -0.1, Button, Red;
0, -2, -0.1, Button, Blue;
1, -2, -0.1, Button, Green;