[22:28 New Topic. Beautiful prompt.]
The Mint Plant Surprise
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the web
Sent by Copilot:
In the bustling aisles of Tesco, Emma, a dedicated store employee, began her day with a smile. She loved her job, especially the part where she got to pick items for customers’ online orders. It felt like a treasure hunt, each list a new adventure.

Today, as she scanned the list on her handheld device, she noticed an order that included a growing mint plant. Emma’s eyes lit up; she had a soft spot for plants, especially herbs. They reminded her of her grandmother’s garden, where she spent countless hours as a child.

As she made her way to the fresh vegetables section, she carefully selected the ripest tomatoes, the crispest lettuce, and the freshest carrots. Finally, she arrived at the herb plants. The mint plants were vibrant and lush, their leaves exuding a refreshing aroma that filled the air.

Emma gently picked up a mint plant, admiring its healthy green leaves. She then remembered the note attached to the order. Pulling out her device, she read the customer’s request: “Please choose one for me to grow uncut as a houseplant.”

A warm smile spread across Emma’s face. She could picture the customer, perhaps someone who loved gardening or simply wanted a touch of nature in their home. She carefully examined each mint plant, looking for the one that seemed the most robust and full of life. After a few moments, she found the perfect one, its leaves unblemished and its stems strong.

With the mint plant in hand, Emma felt a sense of connection to the customer. She imagined the plant thriving in its new home, bringing joy and a bit of nature indoors. She placed the mint plant gently into the basket, ensuring it was secure and would arrive in perfect condition.

As she continued picking the rest of the items, Emma couldn’t help but feel a sense of fulfillment. It was the little things, like choosing the perfect mint plant, that made her job special. She hoped the customer would be delighted with their new houseplant, and perhaps, it would inspire them to grow more herbs and plants.

Emma finished the order with care, double-checking everything before sending it off for delivery. As she watched the basket being wheeled away, she felt a sense of pride. She knew that she had not just picked groceries; she had helped bring a little bit of happiness into someone’s home.

[22:22 New Topic. Plain prompt.]

The Mint Plant Surprise

Sent by Copilot:

In the bustling aisles of Tesco, Emma, a dedicated store employee, was busy picking items for the day’s online orders. She enjoyed this part of her job, imagining the smiles on customers’ faces when they received their carefully selected groceries. Today, she had a particularly interesting order to fulfill.

As she moved through the fresh vegetables section, her eyes landed on the growing herb plants. Among the lush green basil, rosemary, and thyme, she spotted the mint plants. She reached for one, its vibrant leaves releasing a refreshing scent that filled the air.

Emma glanced at her handheld device to check the customer’s note. It read, “Please choose one for me to grow uncut as a houseplant.” A smile spread across her face. She loved when customers added personal touches to their orders. It made her feel connected to them, even if they never met.

Carefully, she examined each mint plant, looking for the healthiest one with the fullest leaves. She found a particularly robust plant, its leaves a deep, healthy green, and gently placed it in her cart. She could almost picture it thriving on a sunny windowsill, bringing a bit of nature indoors.

Satisfied with her choice, Emma continued picking the rest of the items, her mind still on the mint plant. She hoped the customer would be pleased and that the plant would flourish in its new home. It was moments like these that made her job special, knowing she was helping to bring a little joy and greenery into someone’s life.

Plain prompt is as follows.

Tesco has a home delivery service for groceries. A customer uses a website to place an order. A store employee picks the chosen items for the customer. The customer can add notes to the person picking the order. Tesco sells fresh vegetables. Amongst the fresh vegetables Tesco has growing herb plants. A customer orders a growing mint plant. The customer adds a note "Please choose one for me to grow uncut as a houseplant". Please write a story of a lady picking the items of a customer's order and seeing that a mint plant has been ordered and the lady then reading the note.

Beautiful prompt is as follows.

Tesco has a home delivery service for groceries. A customer uses a website to place an order. A store employee picks the chosen items for the customer. The customer can add notes to the person picking the order. Tesco sells fresh vegetables. Amongst the fresh vegetables Tesco has growing herb plants. A customer orders a growing mint plant. The customer adds a note "Please choose one for me to grow uncut as a houseplant". Please write a beautiful story of a lady picking the items of a customer's order and seeing that a mint plant has been ordered and the lady then reading the note.

Alfred wrote:
William wrote:

I have noticed previously that even after a New Topic that the same name seems to be used. So will it always be Emma for these stories?

You can specify a different name, can’t you?

I am thinking of when the AI chooses the name. A New Topic before a rerun of the same prompt seems to often produce the same name.

I remember that some time ago in another thread, where the AI was asked to have a persona, the name of the female persona was the same, until the prompt was changed - was the change to make her Welsh?

William

Alfred wrote:
William wrote:

I know that forming an impression is not exact science, but we need to start somewhere.

Well said, William! If I may, I’ll leave it to you to do the six runs and report back on the results.

Alright. As you and others may be watching 'live' I will try to post them as I get them produced.

William

Alfred wrote:
William wrote:

That is quite a claim

Not really, unless you reject the premise that beauty is in the eye of the beholder. There is no objective standard for beauty, since what is considered to be beautiful is influenced by cultural norms (which differ between cultures) and personal experience and feelings, so it’s all subjective.

Because an AI system is a kind of simulator, it can only have whatever kind of ’mind’ ihas been programmed into it (even if heuristics are thrown in) so it can’t have the real personal experience and feelings that are needed for subjectivity.

Yet the inclusion of the word 'beautiful' could possibly influence the generation of the story in some way, even (though/if) the AI system does not have any feelings.

If it seems to do so, then other adjectives could be tried.

William

I suggest that six runs of the same basic prompt are run. Three asking for a story and three asking for a beautiful story. The two sorts are run alternately. Then read the stories and form an impression of whether the inclusion of the word 'beautiful' makes a significant difference.

I know that forming an impression is not exact science, but we need to start somewhere.

William

Alfred wrote:
William wrote:

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder! An AI system can’t understand subjective things, so you’re merely feeding it a word that it can use in its reply As I hinted earlier, I favour omitting it altogether.

My emphasis using bold.

That is quite a claim

It may be that the inclusion of the word 'beautiful' influences the whole nature of the story.

Maybe, maybe not.

That needs testing.

William

Alfred wrote:
William wrote:

Please write a beautiful story of a lady picking the items of a customers order …

The order in question isn’t an order for customers! You need to change “a customers order” to “a customer’s order”.

William wrote:

… and seeing that a mint plant has been ordered and reads the note.

Plants can’t read! The mint plant doesn’t do anything, but the picker lady does three things:

(a) picking the items of a customer’s order;
(b) seeing that a mint plant has been ordered;
(c) reading the note.

So you need to change “reads” to “reading”.

Well, yes, fine, grammatically: yet should I change them mid-experiment when trying to repeat with the same prompt?

Perhaps I should correct them and then start again in a new thread so that we can try to find out using several runs whether asking for a story or for a beautiful story makes any difference, doing a New Topic each time.

Perhaps three runs with each option might start to give an intuitive idea of whether there is a significant difference.

I have noticed previously that even after a New Topic that the same name seems to be used. So will it always be Emma for these stories?

If using the adjective 'beautiful' is found to make a difference, maybe try with a different adjective. What should it be?

William

Alfred wrote:

Do you get a different result if your prompt simply says “Please write a story” instead of “Please write a beautiful story”?

I don't know. Hopefully I will try later.

However, I will need also to try with the original prompt again as that too may produce a different result.

We can then see if the amount of any differences seems qualitatively different.

But should I correct my error in the string literal that is in the prompt or keep it the same?

William

I have noticed something very interesting.

Here is the prompt for the story. I wrote it in Wordpad and then copied and pasted into Copilot.

Tesco has a home delivery service for groceries. A customer uses a website to place an order. A store employee picks the chosen items for the customer. The customer can add notes to the person picking the order. Tesco sells fresh vegetables. Amongst the fresh vegetables Tesco has growing herb plants. A customer orders a growing mint plant. The customer adds a note "Please choose for one me to grow uncut as a houseplant". Please write a beautiful story of a lady picking the items of a customers order and seeing that a mint plant has been ordered and reads the note.

I had intended placing the prompt in the same thread as the story, but as I went to do so, I realized that I had managed to get the message to the picker in a bit of a muddle.

But, amazingly, it is correct in the story.

So Copilot has corrected my mistake.

Wow!

William

Sent by Copilot:

In the bustling aisles of Tesco, Emma, a dedicated store employee, began her day with a smile. She loved her job, especially the part where she picked items for customers’ online orders. It felt like a treasure hunt, each list a new adventure.

Today, as she scanned through the list on her handheld device, she noticed a special request: a growing mint plant. The note attached read, “Please choose one for me to grow uncut as a houseplant.” Emma’s heart warmed at the thought of someone nurturing a little mint plant in their home.

She made her way to the fresh vegetables section, where the herb plants were neatly arranged. The mint plants stood out with their vibrant green leaves and refreshing scent. Emma carefully examined each one, looking for the healthiest, most robust plant. She found a perfect candidate, its leaves lush and full of life.

As she gently placed the mint plant into her cart, she imagined the customer’s excitement upon receiving it. She could see the plant thriving on a sunny windowsill, its leaves growing fuller each day, filling the home with a delightful aroma. Emma felt a sense of connection to the customer, knowing that her small act of choosing the right plant would bring joy and a touch of nature into someone’s home.

With the mint plant safely nestled among the other groceries, Emma continued her task, her steps a little lighter. She loved the idea that, in a small way, she was helping to make someone’s day a bit brighter. And as she moved through the store, she couldn’t help but smile, thinking about the little mint plant and the happiness it would bring.

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Am Kamin = At the fireside

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xxYRuJmlxA

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A wearable chess set

https://www.dezeen.com/2024/11/07/weara … lle-design

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Painting using only her hands

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/PEDz9XzjXtw

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/ma … r-AA1txvwz

Alfred wrote:

You can change the shape of the decay curve by altering the parameters of the gradient.

Is that by changing the opacity from the 20% that I used?

Or something else?

William

Although my suggested new feature has not made progress, I am wondering about this alternative possibility.

In the Description field of an Open Font Format / Opentype font one could include, between a begin keyword and an end keyword, the text of a file as specified in the following document.

http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~ngo/T … tences.pdf

Also, include a provision that the substituted text can also include the postscript name of one or more glyphs of the font provided that that postscript name is between curly brackets.

For example.

{flower}

Then the application program that is using the font to gather information to produce the display can have access to the information, gathering it from the font.

William

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Maria & Margot Hellwig - Das Leben ist ein Lied 1998

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXYf0H8jIHk

https://i.postimg.cc/MMzvPmkt/sunlight3.png

The blue background has (r, g, b) values as follows.

(128, 128, 255)

The five colours of the bands have (r, g, b) values as follows.

(153, 153, 204)

(173, 173, 163)

(189, 189, 130)

(202, 202, 104)

(213, 213, 83)


heading towards (255, 255, 0)

So it seems that the colours move from the background colour towards the yellow colour of the bands as a sort of chunky exponential decay.

William

Do you know how each of the red, green, and blue channels is calculated when opacity of a layer is used please?

I am wondering if it is, if opacity is expressed as a value p in the range 0.0 to 1.0, if there are n layers, as

x = p * x(i) + (1 - p) * x(i - 1)

Alas, I cannot use square brackets, as the forum software treats them as markup.

and recursively back to the background colour x[0]..

In my picture, a few posts back, (r, g, b) for the blue background is (128, 128, 255) at 100% opacity.

Then each of the five yellow areas have (r, g, b) as (255, 255, 0) at 20% opacity, so p=0.2.

So if my guess at the formula is correct, then

(r, g, b) for the single yellow layer on the blue would be about (153, 153, 204)

Using Paint to look at what is the colour gives (153, 153, 204), so it looks like my guess at the formula might be correct, at least for just one semi-opaque layer upon an opaque layer.

William

The original is landscape A3 size at 300 dots per inch, plus bleed areas.

I did not include the bleed areas when exporting the png image file.

I use one seventh size because the original is 3508 pixels in height, after rounding up the original millimetre-specified A3 size after changing to using pixels as the measurement units when producing an artwork, so using 501 pixels as the height of the png image is a convenient size for use on the web in discussions such as in this thread.

William

Thank you.

William

Drilling a triangular hole

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Qm64fTtSLcw