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Thank you for replying.
The reason that I thought of emoji is that there was mention in the thread of people in Japan using Latin characters for passwords due to difficulties in entering Japanese characters.Emoji are scipt-independent so could be used by people who have a great variety of native languages.
And with emoji many people could probably be able to remember which one to use as they would know the word to descvribe that image in their own language.
William
Hello Jack
Thank you for replying.
I was wondering if anyone would notice that I expressed a "hope" not an "expect".
So I felt that I was being criticised for something different from what I had written.
My approach in putting forward the idea was simply that usually in order to set a password or enter a previously set password, one gets a text box in which to enter data.
On a tablet device one would have a virtual keyboard with a touchscreen to select characters.
But people use various scripts, Latin, Greek, Japanese etc.
I was just thinking of an option to have a display of 64 emoji in an 8 by 8 array and have a particular array as a standard rather than each app developer choose a different array. I thought that that could be helpful.
So everything except the virtual keyboard would be the same as for an existing system.
So I don't understand why the gentleman has suggested all that process for me to do.
It just seemed to me to be a harmless, well-meaning suggestion, that could be very helpful in some situations, not some what he wrote.
I am just wondering how my post has been interpreted by others.
William
The following response has been made.
https://corp.unicode.org/pipermail/unic … 10112.html
What do you make of it please?
William
Thank you.
William
If the rubber band has stretched along its length, why are the numbers not spaced evenly around the wheel?
What am I missing please?
William
https://corp.unicode.org/pipermail/unic … 10099.html
The rest of the thread can be accessed at the following web page.
https://corp.unicode.org/pipermail/unic … /date.html
William
Yes.
Apparently there is more "strawberry flavour" in the world than the amount of strawberries that would be needed to extract that amount of "strawberry flavour". 
Going back to the Bayeux tapestry programme, that programme has a rather nice close up of the depiction of the tapestry's comet, thought to be Halley's comet, though before it was given that name.
Apparently the pronunciation (as if Hal-eee) is incorrect, apparently it should be (as if Horl - ee) as, it has been claimed, that is how Edmund Halley pronounced his surname.
William
It is really good how people speaking French is broadcast with an English translation in subtitles rather than the French being muted and someone speaking in English over the picture.
The part near the end showing what it is now believed some of the tapestry looked like when it was produced, before the colours faded, is amazing.
William
Somewhere in a thread in these forums, mention was made of a BBC programme about the Bayeux Tapestry.
This is a thread to hopefully make that information more widely known.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m … x-tapestry
William
I have just watched the first one.
Thank you for posting.
William
Trouble with going off topic is that people not interested in the OP thread won't read the off topic material, which might interest them if they knew it was there.
I mean, lots of people are not interested in telling stories in any kind of code, including emoji, while they may be interested in the off topic maths. but being off topic, it isn't flagged.
Yes, Jack, you are right.
I have posted a thread pointing to the discussion.
https://punster.me/serif/viewtopic.php?id=134
William
In the last but 2 post of page 1 of the following thread,
https://punster.me/serif/viewtopic.php?id=123
the thread goes off-topic and there is a discussion about calculus going over onto page 2, after a discussion about some problems, in some system(s), of displaying a particular PDF dcument.
This note is provided as a pointer to that discussion.
William
I have been looking at the following.
https://onlineonly.christies.com/s/fine … /lots/2136
The first 10 lots are incunabula, and lot 11 is only one year after the incunabula period.
Thus far I have only beeen looking at Lot 1 in detail.
Clicking on the picture produces access to three pictures, each of which can be magnified using the horizontal slider beneath the illustration, and one can drag the cursor around to display the various parts of the enlarged image.
I have learned from it, and I have found a wikpedia page about the printer.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Rusch
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incunable
William
William wrote:An elderly one at the left has a round notice on the gate, with "No circulars" on it.
The young one at the right has a square notice on the gate, with "No squares" on it.Isn’t that the wrong way around? I would expect the “No circulars” campaigner to eschew the use of a circular notice, and vice versa for the other one.
As I have remembered it from around sixty years ago, maybe I have got the shapes the wrong way round.
William
I remembered a cartoon that I saw in a newspaper in probably around 1960 I think.
Two neighbours at their garden gates, each facing the newspaper reader.
An elderly one at the left has a round notice on the gate, with "No circulars" on it.
The young one at the right has a square notice on the gate, with "No squares" on it.
https://www.lexico.com/definition/square meaning 5
Has that phrasing gone out of fashion?
It reminded me of the word 'beatnik', is that now a word of its era, not used today except in historical contexts?
https://www.lexico.com/definition/beatnik
Had younger readers here ever known the word 'beatnik' before now?
William
U+1FAC2
https://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U1FA70.pdf
PEOPLE HUGGING
and
U+1F496
https://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U1F300.pdf
SPARKLING HEART
in that order.
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https://www.unicode.org/charts/
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William
Right.
So I'll try to use FontCreator to get the code points.
William
Something went wrong.
It might be something to do with the two characters at the end of the quoted sentence.
I managed to go back, delete them and fortunately the post went through.
Of the two characters, one was definitely an emoji and the other gave a tofu box here.
Perhaps this forum software rejects any character beyond plane 0 and scrubs anything following?
William
I saw this:
https://home.unicode.org/emoji-are-not- … -are-made/
Near the end of the document is the follwing.
Until the sending and receiving of images is
standardized in some manner so you can send any image in the world alongside
your text messages not just code points … well, Unicode is here for the world’s
emoji character needs.
Shall we have a go at devising an inline way to express images, such as custom emoji, in a text stream?
Here is my first idea.
A sixteen by sixteen bitmap image format for inline emoji.
Start with
#! to identify the sequence as a graphic to this format.
End with
%
Then a sequence of pairs of an uppercase letter to represent a colour, and a lowercase letter to indicate how many of that coloiur, from lowercase a for 1 to lowercase p for 16. A run of a number of colour cells cannot go over the end of a line onto the next line. However, if a colour directly follows a clour with no lowercase letter then a value of 1 is used. So a lowercase a is optional.
Colours
K Black
N Brown
R Red
O Orange
Y Yellow
G Green
B Blue
V Violet
E Grey
W White
C Cyan
P Pink
D Dark Grey
L Light Grey
S Sky Blue
So a graphic is an absolute minimum of 35 characters
Any carriage returns or line feeds in the sequence are ignored, an asterish is also ignored, it can be used to indicate an end oif line to assist manual comprehension if desiref.
This is a basic system.
It could be expanded, so please join in with ideas and enthusiasm if you so choose.
For example, a graphic could be defined by a code number, then stored locally and then used multiple times just by using the code number.
For example, maybe something like
#!=1; then the rest of the sequence,
to define local graphic number 1.
Then it could be
#!~1%
to use it within a text stream.
But that is just a basic bitmap format with a limited range of colours, but it is a start.
So bitmap, vector, and other possibilities such as more colours and so on remain on the horizon.
William
What happened, I wrote out a basic idea and when I posted, it vanished!
William
I saw this:
https://home.unicode.org/emoji-are-not- … -are-made/
Near the end of the document is the follwing.
> Until the sending and receiving of images is
standardized in some manner so you can send any image in the world alongside
your text messages not just code points … well, Unicode is here for the world’s
emoji character needs.
I cannot help feeling a tad responsible for this thread going ever so slightly off topic Jack. If it was not for me trying to set a conundrum then this thread would still be about some interesting stuff on emojis.
In fairness, you included something about emoji, so although not congruently a story, it was about emoji and it was on BBC TV. So you were not very much off-topic if at all.
It was me, who having watched the programme, mentioned the symbol that was not explained. And I used it to include a link to a chapter of my first novel.
And before that, having watched all of the three episodes of the programme of which Jack had drawn attention to just one part of ne episode, I rambled on about Bruges and Mainz.
But going back to Jack's comment about the thread having gone off-topic.
Yes it has, but does it matter?
The thing is, I think of this forum as much like a staff room at tea break or lunch time, someone raises a topic and then discussion goes where it goes.
Nevertheless, whilst I did that in a thread that starts "Specially for you, William" and indeed I might have done it in another thread, I would not do it in some threads. It depends. For example, in the Serif forum Jack sometimes posted about a religous festival. I never posted in those, and if Jack posts similarly in this forum, if I did post in such a thread it would be on-topic and regarded in its religous context.
I find that threads going off-topic is often interesting and welcome.
As I mentioned, I think of a thread like this as like chatting in a staff room, the topic can meander here and there. It is not like being in a formal lecture with a discussion section.
BUT if someone posted something of a crisis nature I would remain tightly on-topic.
William
Suppose that y is the height of some plant, say a particular sunflower growing in a garden, and x is time.
I don't know the exact figures, so these are just any numbers, just to illustrate the idea.
So one could say, for example, in 20 days the sunflower has grown 40 inches.
So, one could say, ah, that is a rate of change of two inches per day.
However, the growth might have been more rapid on some days than on others, so 2 inches per day is an average, and on any particular day, the growth might be 2 inches, it could be more, it could be less, or it could be exactly 2 inches.
So if, say, we looked at the growth over some chosen 5 day period, the sunflower has grown 11 inches in thoise five days, so 2.2 inches per day on average during that time period.
Now, if we reduce the time period to, say. half a day, we might find that in that paeticular half day it has grown 1.5 inches, so that is an average of 3 inches per day.
On a different half a day, it may have grown 0.4 inches, so that is a average of 0.8 inches per day.
Now if we take the length of time over which we take the change of height down smaller and smaller, then the average is being found more frequently.
Now in the limit as that time gap for the sample tends to zero, that average growth rate over the tme period becomes more accurate as to what is happening at that instant.
That rate of change at that instant is what is designated by dy/dx in the mathematics.
William
Thank you.
"A writing desk" does have something of a Cyberiad-like ambiguity in it!
William
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