Topic: Is this something that is unexpected art?

In the post

https://corp.unicode.org/pipermail/unic … 10871.html

Ken Whistler wrote as follows.

> As an example, I would be perfectly within my rights to try to convey
today's date, April 26, 2024 with the following Unicode string:

> òóòòòòòòò òòòòòòòòò òóòòòòòòò òòòóòòòòò òòòòòòòòò òòòóòòòòò òòóòòòòòò
òòòòòóòòò

Upon investigating exactly what he posted, I found it quite interesting.

William

Re: Is this something that is unexpected art?

Setting aside the fact that Ken Whistler’s suggested Unicode string looks as though it represents “April 36, 2024”, I don’t think it’s art at all (unexpected or not).

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― Hermann Hesse

Re: Is this something that is unexpected art?

I had copied to WordPad and enlarged it so as to try to decode it and as it happened it produced a block of 8 rows and 9 columns.

I thought it rather good that he used 9 column an expressed zero by no accented character.

Did you look at the earlier example in the same post?

Blocks of salt?

William

Re: Is this something that is unexpected art?

William wrote:

I thought it rather good that he used 9 column an expressed zero by no accented character.

Oh, but there are accented characters there: it’s just that there aren’t any acute accents in the sequence! I think you’ve made a grave mistake.

William wrote:

Did you look at the earlier example in the same post?

Blocks of salt?

I thought of sugar cubes.

“Within you, there is a stillness and a sanctuary to which you can retreat at any time and be yourself.”
― Hermann Hesse

Re: Is this something that is unexpected art?

The reference to the blocks of salt is because if one looks at those characters in ViewHex.exe then one can find that they are U+25A1

https://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U25A0.pdf

The description of the symbol includes a reference to salt.

ViewHex.exe can be found in the thread linked from the following post.

https://corp.unicode.org/pipermail/unic … 10873.html

William

Re: Is this something that is unexpected art?

The whole thread is available from the following web page.

https://corp.unicode.org/pipermail/unic … /date.html

Posts in the the thread have the following subject line.

Use of tag characters in a private encoding - is it valid please?

Six posts as at the time of writing this post.

William

Re: Is this something that is unexpected art?

William wrote:

The reference to the blocks of salt is because if one looks at those characters in ViewHex.exe then one can find that they are U+25A1

https://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U25A0.pdf

The description of the symbol includes a reference to salt.

Thanks for the explanation and the link.

William wrote:

ViewHex.exe can be found in the thread linked from the following post.

https://corp.unicode.org/pipermail/unic … 10873.html

Thanks for the reference, no thanks for the very indirect link!

ViewHex.zip can be found at https://forum.high-logic.com/download/file.php?id=189

“Within you, there is a stillness and a sanctuary to which you can retreat at any time and be yourself.”
― Hermann Hesse

Re: Is this something that is unexpected art?

Well, the indirect link is to show the context.

William

Re: Is this something that is unexpected art?

William wrote:

Well, the indirect link is to show the context.

William

In that case, why not say something like the following?

The validity of the use of tag characters in a private encoding is discussed at

https://corp.unicode.org/pipermail/unic … 10873.html

A zip archive of the ViewHex.exe program mentioned on that page can be downloaded from

https://forum.high-logic.com/download/file.php?id=189

“Within you, there is a stillness and a sanctuary to which you can retreat at any time and be yourself.”
― Hermann Hesse

Re: Is this something that is unexpected art?

Since you ask, because by looking at the post that contains the download link for ViewHex.zip one can learn more about it.

William

Re: Is this something that is unexpected art?

William wrote:

by looking at the post that contains the download link for ViewHex.zip one can learn more about it

Your post to the Unicode mailing list links directly to Erwin’s explanatory post to the High-Logic Font Forums.

“Within you, there is a stillness and a sanctuary to which you can retreat at any time and be yourself.”
― Hermann Hesse

Re: Is this something that is unexpected art?

Displaying Ken's string using the Webdings font is interesting.

William

13 (edited by GB 2024-05-05 18:33:37)

Re: Is this something that is unexpected art?

Displaying Ken's string using the Webdings font is interesting.

But you can't be bothered to show us?

Re: Is this something that is unexpected art?

ó on the left, ò on the right:
https://render.myfonts.net/fonts/font_rend.php?id=12c0cfb78262691ec4c48403c4bb7a40&rt=óò&rs=240&w=1500&rbe=&sc=2&nie=true&fg=000000&bg=FFFFFF&ft=&nf=1

“Within you, there is a stillness and a sanctuary to which you can retreat at any time and be yourself.”
― Hermann Hesse

15 (edited by William 2024-05-05 19:59:07)

Re: Is this something that is unexpected art?

GB wrote:

Displaying Ken's string using the Webdings font is interesting.

But you can't be bothered to show us?

Not a matter of can't be bothered at all, I wrote that thinking that some readers might enjoy the experience of observing the effect of formatting all of the eight blocks each of nine characters using the Webdings font.

I found it quite fascinating that a hint of the grave accent and of the acute accent remain.

William