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I've just realised that the Democrat candidates both have some connection to two top brand British sausages and meat pies. Harris and Wall's.

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Aaaarrrrggghhh...

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But that's not all! The third candidate also has a British sausage connection. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPI1Y_S2Q2g

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My "home" territory having grown up in SE24, but I had never heard of Kennedy's sausages.

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My "home" territory having grown up in SE24

Hi Eric.

My home territory was SE25, north part of Croydon. Although despite being the next number, it is not adjacent to SE24.

Kennedy's was based in Peckham, which is very adjacent to SE24. Their pork sausages were the very best I ever found - absolutely scrumptious! Seeing at them sizzling in that video makes my mouth water! Way better than Wall's or Harris's, and anything you could buy in a supermarket.

Unfortunately they failed to survive my move to the US! The world has lost a great delicacy!

Geoff

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If any of you lads and lasses watched the "Debate" between Kamala Harris and Der Trumpster, you saw that we have a complete babbling moron fighting to abuse my country once again with his odious, poisonous presence as President. Pray for us.

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I didn't watch it live, but have seen extracts. The absolute highlight for me was when the clown was saying how people in Ohio were having their pet cats eaten by Haitian immigrants, and Harris burst into laughter!

1m 19s in on https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/art … lse-claims

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I am glad you witnessed that.  Although I consider myself to be at least somewhat articulate, I frequently find myself lacking the words to fully express my loathing for Trump and everything he represents.  I very truly consider him to be a threat to my country as I think it should be and to the world in general.  I will never understand the pull he maintains over the hordes of those who think him to be little short of the Second Coming.  I have otherwise intelligent friends with whom I cannot discuss these things because of the messianic view they hold for someone I consider at least to some extent demonic because of his clear focus on himself and with no regard for any others on the planet.

I cannot explain their stunning lack of judgment and naivete when it comes to evaluating this monster.

I suggest readings from the work of his niece Mary Trump, who is a psychologist and witness to the dynamics of the Trump household under Fred Trump.  Suffice it to say that she is NOT a fan of her uncle, and has much to say about the environment that shaped him into the creature that he is... and a reflection of his father.

I apologize.  You, my brothers on the other side of the pond, have your own issues (can you say Brexit?)  I wish you all the best.

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Robert The Texan wrote:

I suggest readings from the work of his niece Mary Trump, who is a psychologist and witness to the dynamics of the Trump household under Fred Trump.  Suffice it to say that she is NOT a fan of her uncle, and has much to say about the environment that shaped him into the creature that he is... and a reflection of his father.

Given how he treated her late father and how he continues to treat her, it’s hardly surprising that Mary L. Trump is no fan of Donald.

"Has it ever struck you that life is all memory, except for the one present moment that goes by you so quick you hardly catch it going?"
― Tennessee Williams

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I do not mean to overburden you here with my feelings regarding Donald Trump.  I will say, however, that should he win the election here in November he will represent a threat not only to we here in the Colonies but to the economic and political stability of the world.  He is an unfortunately and undeservedly powerful monster.

Below I present books I think worthy of reading to those trying to grasp some feeling for the nature of this creature.  I confess I have to date read only one, that being the first on the list, but my wife just purchased the third.  We have firm plans to read the second because of the critical reviews we have read about the piece.

Mary Trump
Too Much and Never Enough: How My Family Created the World's Most Dangerous Man

Russ Buettner and Susanne Craig
Lucky Loser: How Donald Trump Squandered His Father's Fortune and Created the Illusion of Success

Mary Trump
Who Could Ever Love You: A Family Memoir Hardcover

Again, I recognize you Brits have your own issues.  Having said that, I firmly believed that the actions of a future President Trump will affect you, my brothers, as well... and not in a good way.

Peace to you all, and to quote Tiny Tim, "God bless us every one!"

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From ‘The Good in Us’ by Mary L. Trump:

Donald’s Long Con

The cheating is baked in, so we're told

"Has it ever struck you that life is all memory, except for the one present moment that goes by you so quick you hardly catch it going?"
― Tennessee Williams

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All I can say is that Mary Trump's narrative fits in beautifully with the conclusions I drew about her uncle quite some time ago. I have an MBA, and as a result of my seeking that degree I spent much time in the "Stacks" of the place where I sought the degree in addition to reading pieces from the Wall Street Journal, Forbes, Business Week, and other such tomes.  I saw little in him to be significant other than inherited wealth.  Then came "The Apprentice", which for him was a gold mine.  By the way, it was a crappy show that appealed to those with little discernment of quality.  It seems the US TV viewing audience is easily entertained.

At any rate, he is a charlatan.  He is a carnival barker beseeching the local rubes to come see the Bearded Lady and the Devil Baby.  He appeals to the ignorant, and it seems there are quite a few of them.  It just well may be my country deserves what it gets should it re-elect this horror.

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Not having had a television for many years, I never saw The Apprentice, either Trump's version or Sugar's (the UK copy). So the other day I looked at one episode on YouTube. Or more accurately, part of one episode. I won't be looking for any more! Fawlty Towers  makes more sense.

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I think this path will keep you more sane over time.

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https://open.substack.com/pub/heatherco … er-21-2024

Heather Cox Richardson wrote:

On Saturday, September 7, Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump predicted that his plan to deport 15 to 20 million people currently living in the United States would be “bloody.” He also promised to prosecute his political opponents, including, he wrote, lawyers, political operatives, donors, illegal voters, and election officials. Retired chair of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Mark Milley told journalist Bob Woodward that Trump is “a fascist to the core…the most dangerous person to this country.”

"Has it ever struck you that life is all memory, except for the one present moment that goes by you so quick you hardly catch it going?"
― Tennessee Williams

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https://open.substack.com/pub/robertrei … ey-be-tied

Robert Reich wrote:

With two weeks to go before Election Day, Kamala Harris and Donald J. Trump are essentially tied.

Neither candidate is ahead by even a single point in The New York Times’s polling average of five critical battleground states (Pennsylvania, Michigan, Nevada, Wisconsin, and North Carolina).

How the hell is this possible? Even if polls were systematically off and Harris were actually ahead of Trump by, say, 5 percent, I’d still be appalled that so many Americans in swing states were supporting Trump.

"Has it ever struck you that life is all memory, except for the one present moment that goes by you so quick you hardly catch it going?"
― Tennessee Williams

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The New York Times: Stop Pretending Trump Is Not Who We Are

"Has it ever struck you that life is all memory, except for the one present moment that goes by you so quick you hardly catch it going?"
― Tennessee Williams

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I suspect that no one who has read me here before will be surprised that I weep at the result of the election.  Beyond that, however, I am furious.  I will not cling to the thought that I should be "magnanimous" regarding those who supported Demon Trump.  They are blind, ignorant, often evil in themselves, and it would appear wholly incapable of understanding the damage that vile creature will do to this country.

All anyone with a functioning mind needed to do to understand this monster was listen to what he said beginning around 2015 and view objectively everything he did and said after then.  Those who viewed him in a positive light after all this are intellectually and perhaps even morally beyond redemption.

I have little use for them.  I refuse to be "magnanimous".

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Robert The Texan wrote:

All anyone with a functioning mind needed to do to understand this monster was listen to what he said beginning around 2015 and view objectively everything he did and said after then.  Those who viewed him in a positive light after all this are intellectually and perhaps even morally beyond redemption.

I have little use for them.  I refuse to be "magnanimous".

There has been quite a lot of comment from seemingly knowledgeable people suggesting that the Republican Party somehow managed to pull off a hugely successful disinformation campaign, so it’s probably a little unfair to classify all of his supporters as intellectually and/or morally bankrupt.

"Has it ever struck you that life is all memory, except for the one present moment that goes by you so quick you hardly catch it going?"
― Tennessee Williams

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morally bankrupt

Unfortunately this applies very much to the Biden (hence Harris) administration when it comes to its unwavering support for the ongoing genocide in Palestine. This will certainly have seriously diminished Harris's total votes.

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It be true that the Republicans sought to bury the electorate in misinformation.  Their cult leader, of course, is a master when it comes to continually spouting lies.  Having said that, most of the misinformation was so patently flawed that only a fool would believe it.  No rational mind could have believed even a small fraction of the balderdash being shat out by Trump's minions.  These people failed to apply the old Common Sense test and simply swallowed the garbage being presented to them.

I have little sympathy for those who will suffer as a result of Trump's perfidy should they be among those taken in by his carnival barker BS and voted for him.  They will get what they chose.  It's the old, "Be careful what you ask for" song.

Regarding the nightmare in Gaza and Israel's insistence on, "God said all this belongs to us and we should therefore take it even though some of these people were here before we were..." Netenyahu's recent stance toward the West Bank is hardly defensible.  I suspect Trump will support Bibi in any damn thing he wants.

I need to chill.

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Robert

I couldn't agree more. The Scottish Green Party does too, I believe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6tpLGIu4t4

Perhaps Leander can help you chill by casting your fate to the wind.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWV7oLoljKw

Geoff

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What Job Are You Qualified To Do?

"Has it ever struck you that life is all memory, except for the one present moment that goes by you so quick you hardly catch it going?"
― Tennessee Williams

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Where are the Trump supporters? I would dearly like to know why they truly believe that he is right for the presidency.

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Why so many people voted for Trump − 5 things to understand about MAGA supporters’ thinking

"Has it ever struck you that life is all memory, except for the one present moment that goes by you so quick you hardly catch it going?"
― Tennessee Williams