The most realistic part of how it was to use, when in motion, is as follows.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bq_1NW6cNYY&t=225s

But one could stop with a static view, and look around by rotating the view slowly.

William

Ah yes.

It was (my attempt at) old times computer humour.

In the old days Control H was used to backspace, as in delete, when keying text.

My attempt at humour was that the formal message is as follows.

Could Alfred host a harmless one for us to gain experience of the technology.

But I put in

play with

followed nine times by how Control H was represented in descriptive text, as a sort of Freudian slip that although the formal idea is to gain experience it is (also) to have fun learning.

Though very often having fun with trying to do novel things with a new technology, things not envisaged by the producers of the technology, can be a good way to learn and lead to one being able to apply the new technology in serious applications.

William

@Alfred Is your webspace capable of hosting more than this forum please?

Such as a wiki where registered participants of this forum could generate pages and edit any pages?

Or some sort of 3d wiki?

Sort of like video adventure game technology but where we could try to build something like an art gallery where people could walk around, or an arboretum, or maybe a simulation of a railway or whatever?

Is there any free software out there that you could use to set this up - provided you opine that it is a good idea.

William

control H as been Find and Replace for all the years I remember.

I suppose that there is a spectrum, ranging from, do nothing and there is just a blank screen as the result,  through to a simulation that is indistinguishable from a live television broadcast of a look around a real art gallery with the cameraperson acting upon requests from the viewer.

So whatever we, as forum participants with whatever facilities become available, can produce will be somewhere along that spectrum, hopefully more than the blank screen but much less, at present, than the indistinguishable simulation.

So, how far can we get?

For example, now, I can envisage a wiki page set up as a long wall of an art gallery that one needs to scroll horizontally along, with the wall having many frames, each with a blank solid grey picture in it at the start. So, possibly something like a one row many columns HTML table each cell having a preset image in it with a specified size in pixels, with the whole page has a deep red background, as in some art galleries.

Then registered participants can, if they so choose, produce an image of that size and edit the wikip page and in a picture frame of his or her choice, change the picture in that frame from the blank grey page to his or her own picture.

The specification should, I suggest, be such that people with just minimum facilities can participate.

So although participants can use whatever software they have available to produce a picture, the picture specification should be such that it is possible to take part even if one only has Microsoft Paint, which is bundled with Windows, available.

So what size the pictures?

Well, how about landscape format 724 pixels wide by 524 pixels high.

The reason I suggest that size is because it is a one third size both horizontally and vertically of the size that I use to produce artwork for producing one-off hardcopy greetings cards using an online facility. That is, the resilt is 7 inches by 5 inches, at 300 dots per inch, after physical cropping.

Other pages could have other sizes.

So, then one could move from wiki page to wiki page, yet could that be set up so that the wall has an image of a door in it and one clicks on the door to move to another room in the art gallery rather than clicking on a text link. Maybe a picture of a door to start, later on maybe an open archway with a view through to another room, so that, say a miniature view of a part of the wall of the next gallery showing the two or three rightmost pictures in minature as if being viewed from a distance.

Yet that is what I can suggest now.

But if it is implemented and people have a go at it and produce something, then with the experience gained we might be able to think of something further that I cannot imagine at the moment.

So, going bit by bit, and adding, where we get to may be far further than we can imagine at the moment.

I know that a specific size is a constraint, but a constraint can sometimes help creativity.

For example, if a creative writing class is set a task "Write a poem" then where does one start,
yet if the class is set the task of writing a haiku, three lines, first and third line each having five syllables, he middle line seven syllables, and the action is happening now, as in 'now' being when the haiku is being read or being performed, then those constraints assist creativity.

William

It seems that what I am suggesting is possibly called

web-based non-immersive virtual reality

William

I’ve just installed PmWiki. Play with it here: https://punster.me/wiki

I have started to try to set up a simulation of an art gallery.

It is linked from the main page of the wiki. Please join in and edit it as you wish so as to try to get something good as a team effort.

William

Ah, it appears that uploading images needs to be specifically enabled by the administrator.

https://punster.me/wiki/pmwiki.php?n=Pm … loadsAdmin

I opine that it is advisible to set it up so that only registered forum members can upload images, or edit the wiki.

William

Thank you.

I have managed to upload a few files.

Please have a look and try to add some images or another room or whatever.

William

That's good. thank you.

My first attempt at a tree was refused and it was 75 kilobytes.

The picture that you added is interesting.

I found the file name by opening an Edit, but I did not alter anything.

William