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I once wrote a poem, which may or may not have been in a forum post, maybe it can be located, it was about a can of apricots canned in Australia bought in England and musing about the apricots having grown on a tree beneath stars different from those seen from England.

Here's a little ditty in response.

This poem's about a can of peaches
   Marooned in rusty tin atop the sand
On one of England's windswept beaches
. Its contents clear, writ on the label band

Would, if peaches thought, mindless as they are
. In reality, think how they arrived
From distant land, in can rather than a jar
. From sunny clime and happy land derived

Their thoughts, concerning their own can, were moot
. Were the distance, in a tin, they travelled
From Australasia, a convoluted route
. And arrived, their calmness so unravelled

Or thinking of the blessed Southern skies, the stars
. In the blackness of the heavens showing
Beauteous lights, the skies of England cloudiness marring
. Not like the Southern night time glowing.

Of trees with southern peaches laden down
. Under those brilliant Australasian skies
Dreamt our tin of fruit with peachy velvet gown
. Denuded, so eaten sweet in pies!

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In my opinion, that is very good.

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3 Reply by William (edited by Alfred 2022-01-30 15:02:17)

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I have noticed that your poem does not have a title.

It is an author's choice not to have a title for a poem.

But just wondering if you might like to consider adding a title.

[Moderator note: Remainder of post moved to new topic.]

4 Reply by jackneve (edited by jackneve 2022-01-30 12:29:34)

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Wiliam:

I have noticed that your poem does not have a title.
It is an author's choice not to have a title for a poem.
But just wondering if you might like to consider adding a title.

I will think of a title, and edit the post to incorporate that.

Willliam:

Also, I don't know whether you would want to do this, but you could if you wish produce a greetings card with the poem on the front, and instead of the greeting inside, your name and the date, then send it to yourself.
Here is a link to the template.. . . .

Well, I had no idea that my poem, conceived on a whim, would turn out to be an earnest treatise on how to use a birthday card template and umpteen posts on fonts.
I had the notion that we could have a thread devoted to the literary arts - more the literature rather than the mechanism.

No, William, I have currently no intention of producing a greetings card in this instance, but I suppose I am pleased that you have taken the opportunity to provide guidance to others.

5 Reply by jackneve (edited by jackneve 2022-01-30 12:33:28)

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A title - how about "Fuzzy Thinking", or "A Beach Too Far"

How about a competition, one week timelimit?

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jackneve wrote:

I had the notion that we could have a thread devoted to the literary arts - more the literature rather than the mechanism.

A good point well made, as they say! I’m afraid I’m all too prone to following a thread where it leads. Perhaps I should split the off-topic posts to a new thread.

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jackneve wrote:

Wiliam:

I have noticed that your poem does not have a title.
It is an author's choice not to have a title for a poem.
But just wondering if you might like to consider adding a title.

I will think of a title, and edit the post to incorporate that.

https://punster.me/images/tip.gif If you highlight some text in the message box and press the Quote “ button on the toolbar, you get something like this:

[quote]I have noticed that your poem does not have a title.[/quote]

Changing the opening 

[quote]

to 

[quote=William]

will make it display like this:

William wrote:

I have noticed that your poem does not have a title.

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A title - how about "Fuzzy Thinking", or "A Beach Too Far"

How about a competition, one week timelimit?

Memories of January nights

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William wrote:

Memories of January nights

Not memories of January knights? https://punster.me/images/myopera/myg/knight.gif

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I just realised, William's thoughts were of a can of apricots, so it's better that I chose another fruit - no plagiarism there!

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Alfred wrote:
jackneve wrote:

I had the notion that we could have a thread devoted to the literary arts - more the literature rather than the mechanism.

A good point well made, as they say! I’m afraid I’m all too prone to following a thread where it leads. Perhaps I should split the off-topic posts to a new thread.

Done.

Include a poem in a greetings card

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BTW, I do produce a greetings card, for the Jewish New Year.

It incorporates a colour drawing that I copied from a professional artists site, but, importantly, got her permission to publish it for a  limited distribution - family and friends. So I am not going to publish it here.

The technical features are simply  that it is printed booklet fashion, on pages 1 and 3, and is landscape cut horizontally from a landscape A4 sheet of thin card. I trim the outer edges to allow use of a standard envelope. The font is Ancestry SF, an elegant script font.

Also, I do produce Birthday cards for my wife, and wedding anniversary cards, for her, too, really.

As I make only one each time, I may use different sizes, including whole page

I am attaching one to demonstrate
Ah! I've run into a problem. I did attach a pfd file during the general try-out sessions initially, but I can't see how to do it now.

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jackneve wrote:

I just realised, William's thoughts were of a can of apricots, so it's better that I chose another fruit - no plagiarism there!

Ah, not plagiarism as you acknowledged your poem as after my thoughts.

So, a poem by Jack after some thoughts by William

Maybe pastiche, though not quite.

Though is after only used for paintings and prints and the like?

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I am attaching one to demonstrate
[pdf]D:\My Documents\00 PagePlusX9\Anniv card4 21 21.pdf[/pdf]

That’s the path to a file on your computer, Jack! Unless you’re running your own server, you need to upload it as an attachment to share it with the rest of us.

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William wrote:
jackneve wrote:

I just realised, William's thoughts were of a can of apricots, so it's better that I chose another fruit - no plagiarism there!

Ah, not plagiarism as you acknowledged your poem as after my thoughts.

So, a poem by Jack after some thoughts by William

Maybe pastiche, though not quite.

Though is after only used for paintings and prints and the like?

William

Doesn’t “after” in this sense simply mean “in the style of”? (I find myself thinking of Gerard Hoffnung explaining that he was named Gerard after an uncle, “and Hoffnung after Gerard”.)

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That’s the path to a file on your computer, Jack! Unless you’re running your own server, you need to upload it as an attachment to share it with the rest of us.

I know that, and I'm beating my brains out to get the thing to upload an attachment.
When I click on choose file, if I go to the actual file in its location deep in a subfolder, it prints the short filename, not the path.
I don't understand at the moment whether it looks up the path and merely prints the filename.

The last go, when I clicked on the filename, it said the upload was blocked.

Aaarrrg.

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Alfred wrote:
William wrote:
jackneve wrote:

I just realised, William's thoughts were of a can of apricots, so it's better that I chose another fruit - no plagiarism there!

Ah, not plagiarism as you acknowledged your poem as after my thoughts.

So, a poem by Jack after some thoughts by William

Maybe pastiche, though not quite.

Though is after only used for paintings and prints and the like?

William

Doesn’t “after” in this sense simply mean “in the style of”? (I find myself thinking of Gerard Hoffnung explaining that he was named Gerard after an uncle, “and Hoffnung after Gerard”.)

After reading your post I found the following.

https://www.lexico.com/definition/after

Use as a preposition, section 5 and 5.1 are not the same.

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William wrote:

Use as a preposition, section 5 and 5.1 are not the same.

Section 5.1 is so designated, rather than being numbered as section 6, because it’s a subtype of what’s described in section 5.

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That’s the path to a file on your computer, Jack! Unless you’re running your own server, you need to upload it as an attachment to share it with the rest of us.

I know that, and I'm beating my brains out to get the thing to upload an attachment.
When I click on choose file, if I go to the actual file in its location deep in a subfolder, it prints the short filename, not the path.
I don't understand at the moment whether it looks up the path and merely prints the filename.

The last go, when I clicked on the filename, it said the upload was blocked.

Aaarrrg.

Before I press the ‘Choose File’ button I see “no file selected”. When I press it and browse to a file, I see the filename without the path, and when I press ‘Add file’ it gets uploaded. At that point I see the filename as a clickable link, followed by the file size and the words “file has never been downloaded”.

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For goodness sake, after means following.
(1) Following: in time - "Henry V was after Henry VI"
(2) Following: in distance - "The King's page went after his master to his stateroom."
(2) Following: in style, attributes  - "His pupil painted after the style of  Rembrandt " "Dorothy Sayers wrote after Sherlock Holmes (Actually not so, provide your own comparisons)" This use can be clumsy, and generally is used in a heading -" Poem after Wordsworth's  Daffodills."

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At that point I see the filename as a clickable link

A lovely example of “spell check won’t save you” there! I had omitted the space between “see” and “the”, but because “seethe” is in the dictionary it wasn’t flagged as an error.

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Before I press the ‘Choose File’ button I see “no file selected”. When I press it and browse to a file, I see the filename without the path, and when I press ‘Add file’ it gets uploaded. At that point I see the filename as a clickable link, followed by the file size and the words “file has never been downloaded”.

Thanks for confirming it should pick up the filepath itself. Before I try any more, I'll just comment on the above.

It's exactly what I do, but (a) you have used a.png as a sample, and I have no problem with those.
(b} I wonder if my file is too big, or somethings else. As I said, in one manifestation its download was blocked.

I'll have another go ; first one I know works, then a small pdf, then a bigger file.

BTW re your post of 13.17.01, I was aware of this. I am wary of inserting text inside the brackets, as the font is small - while  big enough for normal reading - and the cursor tends to go in the wrong place and has to be nudged into position.

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test can be deleted
don't quote it.

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try small pdf

This again has the message download blocked

It's a pdf size 216.47 kb

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to Alfred:

Are you able to download the last post 16.22.54?

It always says download blocked,

I'll try another browser