Re: The modalities of using Bing Chat AI to produce art

Please produce an impressionist painting in the style of Claude Monet of a lady facing forward with long hair flowing loosely down both sides of her body in front of her.

[Only two images produced, neither is what was wanted, yet both quite beautiful so posted]



https://i.postimg.cc/3ysxctwB/4ce8975b-b583-4995-a7f5-7f88262ee9a6.jpg



https://i.postimg.cc/vD3cQL2Q/26f7a846-eac0-4a64-b70d-879020919fa6.jpg

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Re: The modalities of using Bing Chat AI to produce art

Yet one was correct

Correct as far as it conforms to your request, but hardly realistic.

Re: The modalities of using Bing Chat AI to produce art

[Today try a version reworded into short sentences.]

Please produce a painting of a lady facing forward. The lady has long hair. The hair flows down in front of her. The hair flows loosely down in front of both sides of her body.

[The first run produced four pictures, the second run produced two pictures, of which one was correct.]



https://i.postimg.cc/HVpvSJnJ/aa8e49e2-89c9-4078-9342-cf83470339b2.jpg

Re: The modalities of using Bing Chat AI to produce art

Please produce an impressionist painting of a lady facing forward. The lady has long hair. The hair flows down in front of her. The hair flows loosely down in front of both sides of her body.



https://i.postimg.cc/DWBzRpKV/536687a2-e1c0-4fbc-848c-a8fa60a5c229.jpg

Re: The modalities of using Bing Chat AI to produce art

The third run included a good picture.

It appears that if a human end user runs the same prompt from a new topic start a number of times then there might perhaps be sometimes a picture that matches the prompt within the pictures that are produced.



https://i.postimg.cc/gnRKV8vF/29eb743c-9b09-4a6b-916d-73fbf7438b31.jpg

Re: The modalities of using Bing Chat AI to produce art

Please produce an impressionist painting of a lady facing forward. The lady is looking straight ahead. The lady is smiling. The lady has long hair. The hair flows down in front of her. The hair flows loosely down in front of both sides of her body.



https://i.postimg.cc/kV7fssCR/b12c22fa-9563-4124-a974-4cfd67561f9f.jpg



https://i.postimg.cc/fVNKWCJq/f9c280d7-f4b4-453b-908e-0b057573fecc.jpg

Re: The modalities of using Bing Chat AI to produce art

Gencraft again:

A painting of a lady facing forward with long hair flowing down loosely in front of her on both sides of her body.

https://i.postimg.cc/4msWDCp9/4-A0-DC06-B-BF41-440-A-8400-937-F80-F0-C095.png

An Impressionist painting of a lady facing forward with long hair flowing down loosely in front of her on both sides of her body.

https://i.postimg.cc/Kkt5WQzf/C304-BED8-019-B-4-BE6-A7-F6-F9688-E5-EC595.png

“Within you, there is a stillness and a sanctuary to which you can retreat at any time and be yourself.”
― Hermann Hesse

Re: The modalities of using Bing Chat AI to produce art

Please produce an impressionist painting of a lady facing forward. The lady is looking straight ahead. The lady is smiling. The lady is wearing a yellow dress. The lady has long hair. The hair flows down in front of her. The hair flows loosely down in front of both sides of her body.



https://i.postimg.cc/9wcGPTfp/d6ef1a30-e0bf-4483-b374-123b9b73e3fc.jpg

Re: The modalities of using Bing Chat AI to produce art

https://i.postimg.cc/GT1ZFb6R/7ff60cc7-d9a1-4caf-b7e4-48707548def0.jpg


Please produce a painting in the style of Van Gogh of a lady facing forward. The lady is looking straight ahead. The lady is smiling. The lady is wearing a yellow dress. The lady has long hair. The hair flows down in front of her. The hair flows loosely down in front of both sides of her body. Please ensure that all of her head and hair is in the picture with background area around it.

Re: The modalities of using Bing Chat AI to produce art

It seems to me that better results can be achieved with getting paintings if one regards the AI as a competent and helpful artist whose native language is not English and who has only studied English as a foreign language at a basic level. So build up what one wants in a sequence of sentences that each have a simple structure.

I am not very good at faces but is Bing Chat AI using the same faces in various pictures, as if the AI has been trained on a limited number of artist's models and if it needs a face it uses one from its licensed collection or something like that?

William

Re: The modalities of using Bing Chat AI to produce art

Waning moon, new moon, however I have phrased the prompt thus far, the crane birds are always in front of a full moon.

Yet a prompt for something else got a good result.



https://i.postimg.cc/cKgKrJ11/29d1cbd7-0b21-4ef7-9e5b-3164d39af298.jpg

Re: The modalities of using Bing Chat AI to produce art

The prompt was as follows.

Please produce an original impressionist painting of some crane birds in front of Saturn.



https://i.postimg.cc/yWN33B1Z/438da05a-7d1b-47cd-bda1-e2a070f92400.jpg

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I cannot imagine where the origin of that picture could possibly be. Is there anywhere in the solar system that close to Saturn where water and live cranes actually exist? Why  do you consider this a good result?

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I was trying to get a picture of crane birds before a gibbous moon.

Previously it has been established that Bing Chat AI will not paint a gibbous moon when asked for a gibbous moon.

So I decided to try to get the desired result by describing the moon otherwise than by using the word "gibbous".

Yet however I have phrased the prompt thus far it is always a full moon that is produced.

So, hey ho, maybe it is just not possible.

So, on what I suppose is a researcher's hunch, I thought of trying some other celestial body. Hmm - Saturn would be distinctive - I wonder if Bing Chat AI will do that. Yes, it will! Those look good, I'll post one to the thread. Well, post two.

Imagine please a real life artist who paints pictures for a fee. How would he or she react to being asked to paint such a picture by a fee-paying client? How does a garage mechanic who usually works on new cars react when he is assigned to a customer's many years old car that the customer wants to keep going? Maybe it is one of the best cars that he has to work on (What!) Ah, but the customer pays the bill promptly upon receiving the invoice. Do all of the people with new cars pay the bill promptly?

The answer to the second question asked of me in the post is, as far as I know, "No".

I opine that the first picture is particularly stylish.

I am asked "Why do you consider this a good result?"

I have thought of what answer I can state. I do consider it a good result, but I find it hard to express why. It has expanded my knowledge of what Bing Chat AI can be prompted to produce. Bing Chat AI will not place a gibbous moon in the background, but it will place Saturn.

I remember a movie, I don't remember which, where a woman is on stage and starts to sing a song, then the curtain is pulled down on her mid-performance, and then she is not part of the rest of the movie, yet that actress is recorded in that movie, so she got the part and is remembered. That picture might perhaps get reproduced in an article on AI somewhere, sometime and it may get accompanied by a Journalist's Downbeat Quip but it would still have been mentioned and printed in the article.

I remember a feature in one episode of a television show called "That's Life" many years ago where fun was poked at a publication about people where basically it seems that if someone paid a fee then the person could have a page about themself in the book and got a copy of the book. So if I remember correctly there was a page quoted about a man who ran a small filling station somewhere in the American Mid-West. Yet, I wonder where those books are now? Are they family heirlooms, are they in local history collections, is one in The Library of Congress? And the programme did inform me of the existence of the book and I thought about its concept and its implications, then and now.

That first picture of the cranes and Saturn. There is the possibility that I will use Affinity Designer software to enlarge that picture and place it on an A3 size canvas and then produce an A3 size PDF document and then get five copies printed in colour on 350 gsm paper. Yet hush, would I dare say so?

And yes, this reply does ramble, it does jump from topic to topic in a way that some people may find peculiar, yet that is a matter for them, yet this is my reply and it makes logical sense to me. ... Yes, I know, I know.

Re: The modalities of using Bing Chat AI to produce art

When I ask you to produce an original painting for me, is it possible to express in my prompt to you the positions of objects using coordinates in a three-dimensional space?

While I can create a graphic art based on your prompt, I’m afraid I can’t interpret specific coordinates in a three-dimensional space. My ability to generate images is based on the description you provide, but it doesn’t extend to understanding precise spatial coordinates or depth. I suggest providing a detailed description of the scene you want to be created, and I’ll do my best to generate an image that aligns with your vision.

Re: The modalities of using Bing Chat AI to produce art

I am learning Welsh with duolingo.com and eliffant a dafad was in an exercise and later draenog was mentioned. So I wondered, in a mix of fun and increasing my understanding of Bing Chat AI what would happen with the following prompt.

Please produce an original impressionist painting in the style of Renoir. Eliffant a dafad a draenog.



https://i.postimg.cc/9RGrc5GW/9b092538-9628-446b-9a18-215c4480cff0.jpg


Oh!

For the avoidance of doubt, Bing Chat AI has translated two of the Welsh nouns incorrectly, thus producing an unexpected picture. All four pictures are based on the same incorrect translation.

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Re: The modalities of using Bing Chat AI to produce art

Eliffant a dafad a draenog => An elephant and a sheep and a hedgehog

An elephant and a daffodil and a dragon => Eliffant a chennin pedr a draig

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Additional note:

That is, chennin pedr is, literally in English, Peter's leek.

The word "a" in Welsh, is "and" in English.

Re: The modalities of using Bing Chat AI to produce art

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Please produce an original impressionist painting in the style of Renoir. An elephant and a sheep and a hedgehog.

Re: The modalities of using Bing Chat AI to produce art

It’s quite difficult to get the requested number of each animal! At first I got two sheep and either no hedgehogs or two, but I also got this:

https://i.postimg.cc/hJfCw6dz/38b2accf-a708-4513-8261-73559db85272.jpg

My prompt was: “An original Impressionist painting in the style of Renoir, depicting one elephant, one sheep, and one hedgehog.”

“Within you, there is a stillness and a sanctuary to which you can retreat at any time and be yourself.”
― Hermann Hesse

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https://i.postimg.cc/hQr53DG6/133db530-d112-42e0-9f11-de2f02cd2cea.jpg



One of the four that I received. Two elephants, four sheep, a hedgehog and some birds.

Re: The modalities of using Bing Chat AI to produce art

William wrote:

https://i.postimg.cc/hQr53DG6/133db530-d112-42e0-9f11-de2f02cd2cea.jpg



One of the four that I received. Two elephants, four sheep, a hedgehog and some birds.

The elephant in the centre of the picture looks rather unwell! It reminds me of the Babar story about poisoned mushrooms.

“Within you, there is a stillness and a sanctuary to which you can retreat at any time and be yourself.”
― Hermann Hesse

Re: The modalities of using Bing Chat AI to produce art

Please produce an original painting in the style of Leonardo da Vinci. There is a lady with a hedgehog.


https://i.postimg.cc/18SJcCD1/43f57122-e6c5-4ade-ab7e-79cc642e03ba.jpg


Can you adjust the fourth picture please such that there is one hundred pixels of background above the head of the lady as I want to use the picture to produce a greetings card and there needs to be a bleed area for removal during the printing process.

I’m sorry for the misunderstanding, but as an AI, I don’t have the capability to adjust images or add specific dimensions to them. I recommend using a graphic editing tool to make the adjustments you need. You can easily add a 100-pixel background above the head of the lady using tools like Adobe Photoshop, GIMP, or even some online photo editors. They provide the flexibility to adjust the image according to your requirements for the greeting card. I hope this helps! X

Re: The modalities of using Bing Chat AI to produce art

Please produce an original painting in the style of Leonardo da Vinci. There is a lady with a hedgehog. Please paint the lady such that there is an area of background above the head of the lady as I want to use the picture to produce a greetings card and there needs to be areas near the edge of the painting that can be removed during the printing process.

[Four more pictures, none as good, request of the area of background above her head not implemented. I can try a simpler wording.]

Re: The modalities of using Bing Chat AI to produce art

I used the Bing app on iPad, with the prompt “An original painting, in the style of Leonardo da Vinci, of a lady with a hedgehog. There are clouds above, grass below, and trees to left and right.” The resultant images are shown below:

https://i.postimg.cc/8J8QBbmY/3348466b-9e5e-4233-a894-7a40f94d3e5e.jpg  https://i.postimg.cc/34gMLDLx/a31ee0f4-76cd-4afb-851c-19d98f22f105.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/n9kyxff8/3e1ba64e-dcd4-41bd-b35c-b756a25eb3bf.jpg  https://i.postimg.cc/HVWxypxy/1a0fafcc-1f73-4b01-a584-10c638247fc9.jpg

“Within you, there is a stillness and a sanctuary to which you can retreat at any time and be yourself.”
― Hermann Hesse

Re: The modalities of using Bing Chat AI to produce art

That is clever. Thank you.

So the AI needs something specific above the lady, something which it is not obvious where it is trimmed to allow for variation from the theoretical 3 mm bleed area trim.

Perhaps the key word to use is "above".

I will try to get the image of the lady larger while still keeping a bleed area plus area above her,

William