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Topic: Bing Chat AI and Sonnets

[Previously, I asked Bing Chat AI to write a sonnet in the Italian style.

https://punster.me/serif/viewtopic.php?pid=3682#p3682

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Here is a recent prompt and reply with Bing Chat AI.]

Please write a sonnet in the Italian style on the theme of Just after Midnight on Monday.

Sure, here’s an Italian (Petrarchan) sonnet on the theme of “Just after Midnight on Monday”:

Just after midnight, when the world's at rest,
And Monday's worries are yet to unfold,
In silent darkness, stars in the west,
Tell tales of the ancient, the brave, and the bold.

The moon, a beacon in the tranquil sea,
Casts shadows that dance with the whispering trees,
A moment of calm, a quiet decree,
A pause in the rush of time's ceaseless breeze.

But soon the sun will rise, the day will start,
And life will awaken with a hurried pace.
Yet in this moment, take it to heart,
The peaceful beauty of time and space.

So cherish these moments, just after midnight,
A new week's promise, in the soft moonlight.

[So, Petrarchan is stated. I looked it up. The rhyme scheme of the sonnet that Bing Chat AI does not seem to fit. There are other features of a Petrarchan sonnet too but I am not sufficiently knowledgeable to know if they fit. So, although the sonnet that Bing Chat AI has produced is pleasant to read, is it in fact in the format that it is purported by Bing Chat AI to be?]

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[So, Petrarchan is stated. I looked it up. The rhyme scheme of the sonnet that Bing Chat AI does not seem to fit. There are other features of a Petrarchan sonnet too but I am not sufficiently knowledgeable to know if they fit. So, although the sonnet that Bing Chat AI has produced is pleasant to read, is it in fact in the format that it is purported by Bing Chat AI to be?]

I looked it up, too, in a couple of places. Although the sestet (the last six lines) is quite variable, it seems that the rhyming scheme of the initial octave should be ABBAABBA.

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It seems that what has been produced has, in total, a rhyming scheme of  ABAB CDCD EFEF GG so, although pleasant to read, as is the sonnet in the other thread that mentions Lucy, it is not a sonnet in the style that was requested nor as purported by Bing Chat AI to be.

So is there an already known sonnet form that has a rhyming scheme the same as has been produced by the Bing Chat AI system?

Is it possible to specify the rhyme scheme explicitly in the prompt and the Bing Chat AI system act on that?

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William wrote:

So is there an already known sonnet form that has a rhyming scheme the same as has been produced by the Bing Chat AI system?

It appears that this is the traditional rhyme scheme of an English sonnet as English has fewer rhymes.

https://www.britannica.com/art/sonnet

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[Bing Chat AI getting in a big muddle!]

Please say what rhyme scheme you use for a Petrarchan sonnet. Please write a Petrarchan sonnet about February.

A Petrarchan sonnet, also known as an Italian sonnet, has a specific rhyme scheme. The sonnet is divided into two parts: an octave (the first eight lines) and a sestet (the last six lines). The rhyme scheme for the octave is typically ABBAABBA, and the sestet can vary, but is often CDECDE or CDCDCD.

Here’s a Petrarchan sonnet about February:

In February's grasp, we find delight (A)
In days that lengthen like a stretched out yarn, (B)
Beneath the snow, the earth prepares for light, (B)
As winter's grip begins to loose and darn. (A)

The heart, it flutters in the frosty air, (A)
While breaths turn white in the cold morning's glare. (B)
In this short month, we find a love so rare, (B)
A warmth that even winter cannot spare. (A)

Yet, as the snowdrops push through frozen ground, (C)
We see the strength of life that still abounds. (D)
Each icicle that melts, each sunbeam found, (E)
In every silent, snow-filled night resounds. (C)

So, let us cherish February's days, (D)
In its quiet strength and resilient ways. (E)

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"Midnight Monday" in your instructions is a little ambiguous. From the line

And Monday's worries are yet to unfold

Bing seems to have considered it to be the midnight when Monday starts, which I think would normally be called "Midnight Sunday".

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William wrote:

[...

Here is a recent prompt and reply with Bing Chat AI.]

Please write a sonnet in the Italian style on the theme of Just after Midnight on Monday.

Sure, here’s an Italian (Petrarchan) sonnet on the theme of “Just after Midnight on Monday”:

I did not write "Midnight Monday".

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I never said you did.

But you did say

Midnight on Monday.

which is the same thing, and just as ambiguous.

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GB .. are you saying that "Just after Midnight on Monday" is actually Tuesday?

I"m confused?

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GB .. are you saying that "Just after Midnight on Monday" is actually Tuesday?

Yes. That is the usual understanding, isn't it? By way of explanation: If one has been invited to stay at a friends house for Monday night, then the midnight that occurs while you are there would surely be Monday midnight not Tuesday midnight. And you would be there from Monday evening to Tuesday morning.

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Here's what Bing had to say on this subject.

My prompt:  If one said I will meet you here just after midnight on Monday, would it be Tuesday when you meet?

Copilot Responded:  If someone says they will meet you just after midnight on Monday, the actual meeting time would be early Tuesday morning. This is because midnight marks the beginning of a new day, so when the clock strikes midnight on Monday, it becomes Tuesday.

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If someone says they will meet you just after midnight on Monday, the actual meeting time would be early Tuesday morning.

Yes, but … what if someone says they will meet you on Monday, just after midnight?

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pberk wrote:

If someone says they will meet you just after midnight on Monday, the actual meeting time would be early Tuesday morning.

Yes, but … what if someone says they will meet you on Monday, just after midnight?

I'd tell them to get lost.  I don't do meetings in the middle of the night.

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I'd tell them to get lost.  I don't do meetings in the middle of the night.

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