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In Affinity Designer, is it possible to produce a multipage document (so that a multipage PDF document can be produced) in Affinity Designer itself please?

I have thus far only been able to get a multipage document in Affinity Designer by generating the multipage document in Affinity Publisher, saving it, then opening it in Affinity Designer (version 1 actually) and then the details are not accessible in Document Setup in Affinity Designer.

Also, if I produce a rectangle and of a given width and height and a border of a known width, then exporting that rectangle as a png graphic wants to have the size of the graphic greater than the declared size of the rectangle, so it seems that (perhaps?) the border stroke sits on the exact edge of the rectangle and extends both sides.

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I have found artboards but I do not understand it all.

I want to produce a multipage PDF document from Affinity Designer where each page is 24 inches wide by 13.5 inches high, thus a 16:9 aspect ratio so that an A3 picture, possibly with a bleed area, can be included on any page in it at full size, and thus exportable by reading the PDF document in a desktop publishing program and exporting just the selected image, this assisted by the image having a borderless white-filled rectangle behind it, so unseen normally, yet selectable from within a desktop publishing program.

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Please find attached a PDF document.

This PDF document is designed to give a good full screen display on a display that has a 16 to 9 aspect ratio, yet is displaying an A3 size artwork.

An experiment that I have tried, and got to work, is to extract the picture and export it as an A3 size PDF document with 3 millimetre bleed areas at 300 dots per inch.

I found that an interesting experiment to do. I would be interested to know of the experiences of any reader here if the experiment is tried.

The PDF document is listed as exported from Affinity Publisher. The artwork and setting up the document was done in Affinity Designer, but I wanted to include my name as Author in the PDF document properties list.

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In Affinity Designer, is it possible ....

Shouldn't you ask this on the Affinity forum?

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In Affinity Designer, is it possible ....

Shouldn't you ask this on the Affinity forum?

No.

The fact that another forum exists does not in any way restrict the range of topics that can be discussed in this forum.

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I have now sent a copy of the PDF document to The British Library for Legal Deposit.

https://www.bl.uk/more/

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In Affinity Designer, is it possible ....

Shouldn't you ask this on the Affinity forum?

No.

The fact that another forum exists does not in any way restrict the range of topics that can be discussed in this forum.

William

Geoff merely suggested asking on another forum (which you may already have done, for all we know). He didn’t say you should ask there instead of here.

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I have now sent a copy of the PDF document to The British Library for Legal Deposit.

https://www.bl.uk/more/

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You make it sound as though there’s an institution named ‘The British Library for Legal Deposit’. https://punster.me/images/biggrin.gif

I presume you mean that you’ve sent a copy of the PDF for legal deposit at the British Library. There are five other libraries in the UK Legal Deposit system: please see https://legaldeposit.org/about.

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There are five other libraries in the UK Legal Deposit system: please see https://legaldeposit.org/about.

I knew of that Agency, but I had not seen its website before.

Thank you.

On that website is the following.

> Publishers must supply five copies of every print publication, on request, to the Agency for Legal Deposit Libraries (ALDL) in Edinburgh, for distribution to the five Legal Deposit Libraries.

A copy of a print publication must be sent within one month of publication to The British Library.

The Agency then has one year in which the request may be made. A publisher may send them in without being asked if the publisher so chooses.

With pure electronic publications, The British Library makes copies and sends them, though whether that is to the Agency or direct to the five libraries I do not know.

I was, in fact, under no obligation to send in the PDF document as The British Library gathers from websites. However, I choose to do so.

The regulations for electronic publications, both pure electronic and electronic on media, came into force in 2013. Before then, The British Library had no right to gather. However, for some years before, The British Library had a Voluntary Deposit system for electronic publications and I used to send pure electronic publications. When the regulations came in I continued to send items in as before. This so that I know that they have them for conservation.

So my Art Show can be On Tour too.

I wonder at how many locations. The British Library has Reading Rooms at London and in Yorkshire.

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https://legaldeposit.org/electronic-publications/

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https://legaldeposit.org/e-legal_posts/ … lications/

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I have now sent a copy of the PDF document to The British Library for Legal Deposit.

https://www.bl.uk/more/

William

The British Library has acknowledged receipt of the PDF document.

William

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The fact that another forum exists does not in any way restrict the range of topics that can be discussed in this forum.

Whilst that is true, as far as I know, amongst the regular posters here, only you and Alfred make much or any use of Affinity products, or even have them. The number of replies posted here that help with your problem (zero) is exactly what I would expect!

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A copy of a print publication must be sent within one month of publication to The British Library.

Just as a point of information, they style themselves as ‘the British Library’ rather than ‘The British Library’. Please see https://www.bl.uk.

William wrote:

The British Library has Reading Rooms…

I think Donald Trump is very largely responsible for the use in English text of capital letters where none are needed! The British Library has reading rooms.

William wrote:

…at London and in Yorkshire.

1. Why ‘at London’ instead of ‘in London’? The former sounds rather unnatural to me.

2. Yorkshire is a big place! The one in Yorkshire is in (or at!) Boston Spa, a village in the Leeds metropolitan district of West Yorkshire.

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The fact that another forum exists does not in any way restrict the range of topics that can be discussed in this forum.

Whilst that is true, as far as I know, amongst the regular posters here, only you and Alfred make much or any use of Affinity products, or even have them. The number of replies posted here that help with your problem (zero) is exactly what I would expect!

Well, fine. But it is not exactly what I expected.

It seems that in Affinity Designer one does not add an extra page, one adds an extra artboard. I don't know what happens if one then tries to export a PDF document, but anyway I need to export the PDF document for the Art Show from Affinity Publisher so that the PDF document can include my name within the Author field of the PDF documents Properties fields.

Anyway, eventually I found the Artboard tool and one option is to add an artboard that is the size of the Document, but I cannot yet get that to work.

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William wrote:

A copy of a print publication must be sent within one month of publication to The British Library.

Just as a point of information, they style themselves as ‘the British Library’ rather than ‘The British Library’. Please see https://www.bl.uk.

I seem to remember that that organization posted something about that some time ago.

I think that it might have changed from when it was established.

Maybe something to do with it being listed in directories under T rather than under B.

The answer? List it twice, both under The British Library and British Library.

https://www.abc.net.au/science/articles … 050208.htm

“The Definite Article: Acknowledging ‘The’ in Index Entries,” Glenda Browne, The Indexer, vol. 22, no. 3 April 2001, pp. 119-22.

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The British Library has Reading Rooms…

I think Donald Trump is very largely responsible for the use in English text of capital letters where none are needed! The British Library has reading rooms.

Ah, an ordinary library may have reading rooms, which are just rooms where reading can take place, but The British Library has Reading Rooms because they are the only places where, by law, the public may read items that have been deposited by Legal Deposit.

For pure electronic publications under Legal Deposit only one display may take place at any one time. So I intend to make a gift of a second copy of my (not yet produced) Art Show PDF document so that The British Library may display as many copies of the gift copy as it chooses, that being stated that in the PDF document too.

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A copy of a print publication must be sent within one month of publication to The British Library.

Just as a point of information, they style themselves as ‘the British Library’ rather than ‘The British Library’. Please see https://www.bl.uk.

I seem to remember that that organization posted something about that some time ago.

I think that it might have changed from when it was established.

Maybe something to do with it being listed in directories under T rather than under B.

The answer? List it twice, both under The British Library and British Library.

https://www.abc.net.au/science/articles … 050208.htm

“The Definite Article: Acknowledging ‘The’ in Index Entries,” Glenda Browne, The Indexer, vol. 22, no. 3 April 2001, pp. 119-22.

William

The British Library’s domain on the Internet is bl.uk. The Times newspaper is at thetimes.com and The Guardian and The Observer are at theguardian.com and theguardian.com/observer respectively.

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Please find attached a PDF document.

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The A3 size picture in the PDF document has 48 colours.

This so that when the picture is printed, the print is a guide as to how those colours when used in an electronic display will appear in a print made using the same printing process.

Can you deduce the paths through RGB space that the vertical sequences follow?

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An interesting aspect of the United Kingdom Legal Deposit system is that everything is conserved.

So there is no assessment of merit in relation to which items are conserved.

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An interesting aspect of the United Kingdom Legal Deposit system is that everything is conserved.

So there is no assessment of merit in relation to which items are conserved.

William

Do any countries use a system where everything is assessed for merit? If so, there must be a humongous amount of work involved, not to mention the scope for controversy.

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I am fairly sure that I once saw somewhere that in the United States of America, where the deposit is with the Library of Congress, that they do not keep everything.

I have been having a look this morning and have not yet found anything about it at the time of writing this note.

I have started to read the following document.

https://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ07d.pdf

If the Library of Congress does not keep everything then my idea of an Art Show at a Legal Deposit library sort of automatically would not work in the USA.

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I am fairly sure that I once saw somewhere that in the United States of America, where the deposit is with the Library of Congress, that they do not keep everything.

You’re right, William, they don’t:

Does the online catalog list every item in the Library's collections?

No. While the Library of Congress collections contain over 162 million books, periodicals, manuscripts, maps, music, recordings, images, and electronic resources, the online catalog contains 17 million records describing these collections.


What We Collect

Although the Library of Congress is the largest library in the world, it does not have a copy of every item ever published, nor does it retain copies of every item submitted through the acquisition sources listed above for its research collection. The Library's permanent collections are shaped by Collections Policy Statements, with technical agricultural works acquired mainly by the National Agricultural Library and clinical medical works by the National Library of Medicine.

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The law about Legal Deposit in the UK seems to me to be worded as if the publisher does not want to send in the copies but is being forced to do so.

Yet in my way of looking at the Legal Deposit system it is a great way to have my work conserved.

And hopefully soon for me to have some of my art exhibited.

I have five pictures ready thus far and I feel that I need at least two more, some text and a newly coined word to describe the whole process.

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This post from John

https://punster.me/serif/viewtopic.php?pid=5555#p5555

has been very helpful, as I learned about Rabatment from his book and have used it thus far in one of the pictures for the Art Show.

William