1 (edited by William 2025-05-08 07:44:20)

Topic: A lively discussion (about artwork for giclee prints from post 22)

Let's have a lively discussion.

About what?

About whatever and let's see where it leads.

William

2 (edited by Albert Ross 2025-04-22 10:42:44)

Re: A lively discussion (about artwork for giclee prints from post 22)

That reminds me of Mrs Reginald Perrin asking her husband if he could bring himself to having an actual conversation with her, as he never seems to find the time to speak to her.
His reply was, what shall we talk about then I know, I'll kick it off. After a brief pause he said "do you think a Labour government can be true to its socialists beliefs operating in a capitalist society? A question that seems to be oh so contrived, is, in my opinion a very valid one, only problem with it, is that by its very nature, is political, and as such should not be asked in a public forum, unless Mr Musk is the owner of the forum.

Re: A lively discussion (about artwork for giclee prints from post 22)

Do you remember doing the pools and did you ever win anything?

Do you remember how they calculated the number of lines i.e. 8 from 11 = 165 lines


https://i.postimg.cc/QFLfY0bG/pools.jpg

Somewhere over the rainbow, weigh a pie ...

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Re: A lively discussion (about artwork for giclee prints from post 22)

No, no and thrice no Joe. Perhaps I should take up poetry!

My parents were never interested in football and therefore never did the pools, and as such I was never subjected to the jargon of the pools. I can remember watching "Grandstand" in the 60s and 70s and after the reading of the football results David Coleman always said things like, there were 15 draws and no jackpot, or there were 8 draws and a very good chance of somebody winning the jackpot.

Re: A lively discussion (about artwork for giclee prints from post 22)

I never did the football pools or the lottery.

I do have some premium bonds though.

A very British type of thing are premium bonds, like when the currency was decimalised the introduction of the 50p coin with the seven curved pieces round the edge and rounded joins between them.

Re: A lively discussion (about artwork for giclee prints from post 22)

There is always the next month's draw: I could win a million pounds.

Re: A lively discussion (about artwork for giclee prints from post 22)

Joe wrote:

Do you remember how they calculated the number of lines i.e. 8 from 11 = 165 lines

Clicking on the picture enlarges it.

I note that they refer to PERMS, which I think might mean permutations. But I think that they would really be combinations, becuase, if I remember from school mathematics, in a permutation the order matters whereas in a combination it does not.

So, for example, suppose a woman has one red ribbon, one yellow ribbon and one blue ribbon.

If she is to choose first a ribbon to tie in her hair, then one to tie on the handle of her handbag, then there are six possibilities. Three possibilities for the first choice, then two possibilities for the second choice, so six possible results.

However, if she is to choose first a ribbon to tie in her hair, then a second ribbon to tie in her hair, then there are six possibilities of the choices, yet only three possible results as the two chosen ribbons are treated equally, so the order of choosing is unimportant.

But back to the football pools "PERM".

How do we get 165 from 8 out of 11?

Not knowing from the football pools application but from the maths classes, it is something like, eleven choices times ten choices times nine choices times ... four choices, divided by one times two times three times ... eight.

So lots of them cancel out, leaving eleven times ten times nine, divided by one times two times three.

So what is that?

Changing ten divided by two to five, and changing nine divided by three to three leaves eleven times five times three.

So eleven times fifteen.

Thirten squared is 169.

Thirteen minus eleven is two.

Two squared is 4.

169 - 4 = 165

How about that! Yay!

Re: A lively discussion (about artwork for giclee prints from post 22)

Regarding the man reading out the football results how he used to change the tone of his voice in how he said the name of the team depending on the result.

Like,

(Cheerfully) Blues 7 (Sorrowfully) Reds 1

Or

(Sorrowfully) Greens 2, (Cheerfully) Yellows 25

Re: A lively discussion (about artwork for giclee prints from post 22)

Albert Ross wrote:

"... do you think a Labour government can be true to its socialists beliefs operating in a capitalist society? A question that seems to be oh so contrived, is, in my opinion a very valid one, only problem with it, is that by its very nature, is political, and as such should not be asked in a public forum, ...

Well, why not ask it in a public forum?

A discussion in this particular forum could be sensibly polite on the topic, with a culture of no political posturing.

Re: A lively discussion (about artwork for giclee prints from post 22)

And for those other two "perms",

For the 12 one, multiply the 165 by 12 and divide by 4, so, as 12 divided by 4 is 3, multiply 165 by 3,

so that is (100 + ((200/3) - (5/3))  times 3,

which is 300 + 200 - 5 = 495

For the 13 one, multiply the 495 by 13 and divide by 5,

So (500 - 5) divided by 5 is (100 - 1)

(100 - 1) times 13 = 1300 - 13 = 1287

Yay!

Re: A lively discussion (about artwork for giclee prints from post 22)

Doing those sums was fun.

Thank you, Joe.

And thank you, Albert, for posting.

William

Re: A lively discussion (about artwork for giclee prints from post 22)

Leonard Rossiter appears in a serious role in the film 2001 A Space Odyssey.

He plays the role of the scientist on the space station.

A speaking role.

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Re: A lively discussion (about artwork for giclee prints from post 22)

Albert Ross wrote:

No, no and thrice no Joe. Perhaps I should take up poetry!

My parents were never interested in football and therefore never did the pools, and as such I was never subjected to the jargon of the pools. I can remember watching "Grandstand" in the 60s and 70s and after the reading of the football results David Coleman always said things like, there were 15 draws and no jackpot, or there were 8 draws and a very good chance of somebody winning the jackpot.

Albert, you're a poet and you didn't know it.

Somewhere over the rainbow, weigh a pie ...

Re: A lively discussion (about artwork for giclee prints from post 22)

Wednesday

What shall we discuss today?

If there are no other suggestions, giclée printing.

Re: A lively discussion (about artwork for giclee prints from post 22)

William wrote:

Wednesday

What shall we discuss today?

If there are no other suggestions, giclée printing.

Right then, giclée printing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gicl%C3%A9e

Re: A lively discussion (about artwork for giclee prints from post 22)

No other posters in this thread today it seems.

Re: A lively discussion (about artwork for giclee prints from post 22)

William wrote:

No other posters in this thread today it seems.

You’re the one who brought up the subject, William! What would you like to say about it? Why have you bumped a couple of other threads with nothing more than the word ‘bump’?

“Welcome to the present moment. Here. Now. The only moment there ever is.”
― Eckhart Tolle

Re: A lively discussion (about artwork for giclee prints from post 22)

Actually, I’m curious about your choice of topic title and OP. You can’t prescribe a lively discussion, you can only start it and hope that it becomes lively.

“Welcome to the present moment. Here. Now. The only moment there ever is.”
― Eckhart Tolle

Re: A lively discussion (about artwork for giclee prints from post 22)

Alfred wrote:

Why have you bumped a couple of other threads with nothing more than the word ‘bump’?

This is offered as an explanation not as an excuse or justification.

Because I was trying to access them and they were taking time to find. So I bumped the threads so as to be able to find them more easily.

Yet maybe as a side effect the prior existing content might be noticed and perhaps enjoyed by a few of the newer readers.

Re: A lively discussion (about artwork for giclee prints from post 22)

Alfred wrote:

Actually, I’m curious about your choice of topic title and OP. You can’t prescribe a lively discussion, you can only start it and hope that it becomes lively.

Well I was bored and fancied a continuous discussion like we used to have, both here and in the old lounge.

Re: A lively discussion (about artwork for giclee prints from post 22)

William wrote:
Alfred wrote:

Actually, I’m curious about your choice of topic title and OP. You can’t prescribe a lively discussion, you can only start it and hope that it becomes lively.

Well I was bored and fancied a continuous discussion like we used to have, both here and in the old lounge.

Understood. Even on CommunityPlus they killed the mood by removing the Lounge link from the main navigation bar, but it was better than nothing.

“Welcome to the present moment. Here. Now. The only moment there ever is.”
― Eckhart Tolle

Re: A lively discussion (about artwork for giclee prints from post 22)

William wrote:

Wednesday

What shall we discuss today?

If there are no other suggestions, giclée printing.

Now it is Thursday and here is a giclée print related puzzle, which is based on what I am doing. I have my solution, I wonder if others get the same.

Making an artwork file for an A6 landscape giclée print. 300 pixels per inch.

The picture is 1024 pixels square.

This one.

https://punster.me/serif/viewtopic.php?pid=4035#p4035

The rest is white space.

Let us say x pixels above the picture and y pixels below the picture, with y greater than x. Also x and y are in the golden ratio to each other.

The left side white space, z, is the geometric mean of x and y, that is, z is the square root of x times y.

Add a 3 mm bleed area at each of the four edges. What is that in pixels?

Re: A lively discussion (about artwork for giclee prints from post 22)

William wrote:

The picture is 1024 pixels square.

This one.

https://punster.me/serif/viewtopic.php?pid=4035#p4035

Or rather, this one:

https://postimg.cc/64BkvQZ4

“Welcome to the present moment. Here. Now. The only moment there ever is.”
― Eckhart Tolle

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Re: A lively discussion (about artwork for giclee prints from post 22)

What is that in pixels?

What is what in pixels? 3mm?

Credendi non mutant facta

Re: A lively discussion (about artwork for giclee prints from post 22)

GB wrote:

What is that in pixels?

What is what in pixels? 3mm?

That’s how I understand the question in the present context.

William wrote:

Add a 3 mm bleed area at each of the four edges. What is that in pixels?

William is

Making an artwork file for an A6 landscape giclée print. 300 pixels per inch.

Given that he is using a document resolution of 300 pixels per inch, and armed with the knowledge that 1 inch is 25.4 mm, I’m sure William can easily work out how many pixels are needed to represent 3 mm at the same resolution.

“Welcome to the present moment. Here. Now. The only moment there ever is.”
― Eckhart Tolle