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ericlnz wrote:

Thanks Paul.  All yours look great.

I did a lot of work with mine on the timeline.  Levels, colour correction, sharpening.  Plus cutting into sections and varying the play speed to match the audio waveforms of the captured film stripe with the audio from my original tapes. At least I had reasonable audio quality.

I chuckle when some try to make old film look like modern digital.  That destroys the atmosphere of film.

I noted in my post how good it was and I did think that it had been done with some sort of film scanner !
Although I do agree to a point regarding the atmosphere of of old films, I find that when they are done with the very best equipment the results are truly amazing, years ago it would have been impossible !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHkc83XA2dY

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ericlnz wrote:

Gordon - I did my transfers around 16 years ago using the crude method of copying with a digital video camera off a small screen onto which the film was projected. The quality varied from good to barely acceptable depending on the quality of the original.  40 Plus was my first and probably my best.  Shot on a Sankyo 8CM Standard Eight camera purchased secondhand from Wallace Heaton in 1967.

Yes that's what I tried with different textures of screen to hold back the highlights. I did find that running the projector at 24 frames and slowing the copy in post helped as well to avoid flickering. I must admit that your copying was very good that's why I asked.
The only projector I still have is an Elmo stereo sound that I bought towards the end of my S8 filming days, and surprisingly I sold a couple of S8 sound cameras to the USA in the last 2 years as there are still some "film anoraks" over there.
Although I used to enjoy editing film back then you didn't get a second chance if you made a balls up along the line somewhere, and I'm sure that todays video makers have no idea what it was like, and of course the price of the film itself!

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Albert Ross wrote:

Just a quick update. I have now cleared the cache but still cannot watch Samoa. The strange thing is that I can watch some of Eric's older videos like the one made in 2015 featuring the insects in his back garden, etc., but as for Samoa...

I'll see if I can watch it with my Alexa device.

Albert, it does seem very strange as I can simply put in https://vimeo.com/33854096 on Edge or Google
and it goes straight onto it. Perhaps your laptop needs a new mainspring !

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Eric, I just loved the film as it reminded me of going to the local "flea pit" cinema on a Saturday morning and watching one of the shorts on Movietone News.  Did you do the 8mm to Digi yourself?, as I have thought about buying one of those machines that convert film to Digi frame by frame onto an SD card.
Over the years I have tried various ways (with limited success) to get some of my old 8 and S8mm films  onto Digi before they are lost forever, even projector bulbs are getting harder to find let alone any other parts!

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I can watch it with no problem, and I only have a free account.

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pberk wrote:

I never heard of this .. Certainly a wonder of nature .. Good video work ..

I'd would have narrated instead of the lengthy title cards, used more live sound and sought out comments from others in the group .. but that's me -- It's your memory of the experience, (what caught your eye) so in that sense it's perfect as it is. 

It's interesting that this has become a tourist attraction.  But why not?  And I'm quite sure the video, nor any pictures, capture the impact of seeing something like this in person. 

Thanks for posting.

Sorry about the title cards but I am useless at narration.  I could get other people to do it for me including a couple of radio presenters that I happen to know, and one ex ITV newscaster who lives in our village in the UK that I have been friends with for years. The only problem with that is I like to make the complete film myself and it would be a lot of "faffing"about.
As for live sound, I did try at first to use the sound off the camcorder, but it was very "echo" orientated and I went off the idea. Normally I use a separate audio recorder, but I knew that there was going to be a lot of walking up and down spiral staircases and only took the minimum gear with me on this occasion.
If I went again, I would also have taken at least one LED light as it was very dark in most of the tunnels, and as my camcorder only has a small sensor the lens was wide open for a good part of the video.

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The dictionary describes a "Geode" as a "small" cavity in rock, lined with crystals or other mineral matter, however in 1999 at Pulpi (that is not too far up the coast to us in Spain) the largest mineral geode in Europe was discovered in an old iron mine. We have driven past it many times over the years and decided one day to take a look at it.
There was a lot of walking involved on the day with the different levels that were only accessible by stairways,but since I made this video, I understand that lift shafts have been installed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=541y82eO5WU&t

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One other factor is experience.  This was not my first event like this.  It did take a fair amount of effort and time to edit.  But it was a labor of love.  My goal was to get it down to 15 min.  So, in that sense, I failed.  But my wife always wants these video memories to be longer -- not shorter.  If I cut things too much, she notices.  So it's too long for general audiences but, for us, on a cold winter's night, just right
Do you have any Cunard experience?


I know exactly what you mean regarding how long a big project should last. You shoot loads and loads and what do you leave in and leave out?  Obviously, you don't want to bore people with too much "baby on lawn" style footage.
What I tend to do is run though all the shots to make sure that I have enough of the main things and people that will matter, even if it means recording extra footage afterwards (if possible).
I always make sure that it has a start that establishes where the venue is, then the middle with all the important parts including onlookers/audience (if it has any). The end can take many forms depending what type of video I am filming, it can end with a fade out of the outside of the venue or a dance or whatever, but I always wind it down without a sudden stop, and if it has an audience, fade out on them. 
I am a bit ruthless on a lot of shots and do cut them tight in post unless they are important, this is probably left over from my old "proper film" days when it was expensive to buy.
After I have finished it, I run it on the TV in front of my wife for an honest opinion to see if it conveys what I am intending it to show to others, as it's easy for me as I was there. Very often I will alter parts before I am satisfied, and I will overdub music if it is feasible. I try and make sure that any part of the audio track is as good as I can get it and I always use a separate sound recorder. If it's a band I will (if possible) plug a flash drive into the mixing desk, but I will still use the audio recorder with mikes as I have had a few disasters in the past with the singer or some instruments not mixed properly!
Regarding Cruise Liners the answer is no, they have never appealed to me and the only sea voyages that I do these days are on the cross-channel ferries or to Nothern Spain, if I am not flying for some reason.

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pberk wrote:

This video is from 2015.  It's long, 22 minutes, but worthwhile for anyone interested in "Cunard" history. The video was shot at Cunard's 175th Anniversary concert held in the Liverpool Cathedral.  It was a grand affair, attending by several thousand people.   We are old Cunarders over the past 25 years, hence we felt very lucky to be there.  Considering the conditions ( I was merely a member of the audience), I'm very proud of the filming and editing. 

https://youtu.be/A06dyC0p5Rk

Wow that was excellent, I appreciate how good that is considering from where you were seated! Was "all" of it recorded on the day or did you use extra footage from somewhere else?
Yes, the editing is first class and I would think that it took a fair bit of time to finish? also what camera was you using at the time.

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ericlnz wrote:

Thanks Gordon.  It looks very dry and barren.  I didn't notice any trees.  Vastly different to the green English countryside. 

On the plus side not much traffic.  Only two vehicles passed.  Not quite like London rush hour!

The thing is that we are very lucky in that we have a choice of both as we live very close to Gatwick airport and Spain is only a two and a half hours flight away for us. The only problem now is that since Brexit we can only spend 180 days a year in the EU, and only 90 days max at one time. We don't want to take up residency as owning properties in both countries can cause double taxation problems, and I don't want to give away my small amount of savings to something that I don't need to!
The 180 days thing is at least a "rolling" number, so we tend to do 5/6 weeks maximum at a time and pop back home in the UK for a while.
As we have been doing it for years "on and off" (and more since we both retired) it can get a bit confusing sleeping in different beds/driving different cars on alternate sides of the roads/eating different foods/different language etc, and a few hours later it all changes! However, all the time that we are fit and able to do it then we will continue.
Regarding traffic, yes on the open roads most are relatively free of vehicles especially out of season, but the main resorts are a bit of a nightmare and to find a parking space can be a pain in July/August, but we can walk to a lot of the places that we need to fortunately.

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pberk wrote:

Thinking about Alaska today .. we are scheduled to go back in July 2023 .. We've been there many, many times.  We especially love the enchanted forest at Icy Strait Point.

Cold weather is not my "cup of tea" either, an interesting short video though.


Going back to 2016 this is simply a drive up the coast road near our place in Spain taken off the dashcam. It shows the totally unspoilt coastline in our area that is just the same today.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyWvyQIA26A

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Is there anyone out there !!!!
I wonder if I am the only person on "post your videos here"?
I have been down in Spain for 6 weeks filming various bands and probably I didn't get around to making anything that people would be interested in on this forum?
As I have been down in Mojacar on and off since 1972 I find it difficult to make a new video of anything that you may be interested in (I could do a walk around the actual Mojacar village on the hill if anyone was interested)?     
Anyway, this is the type of thing that I spend most of my time filming that is not everyone's cup of tea. These "guys n gal "were doing an Addams Family special for Halloween and the lead guitarist was almost unrecognizable as he has very long curly hair that he had platted and greased tight to his head and normally a beard, also the singer has blond hair.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRrlt40HAwk

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Just a thought, as you can put MoviePlus X6 on another computer from the original supplied disk and install the unlock codes, it must be possible to pass it on to others?  Obviously, I like others have done it when changing computers over time and I would think that it must be possible? especially for computer geeks!!

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Is that your wife, with the hair, walking across behind him? Now fully recovered from covid?
Yes it is, although Sue is a lot better, she is not her old self at the moment. Mind you neither of us are at our age !

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pberk wrote:
GStree wrote:

Please watch for the first 50 odd seconds and you will be surprised at our local rock band lead singer!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxFgDm6fJ4o

Nice.  I was surprised.  Lesson.  Don't judge a book by its cover.

The original lead singer went back to England last year and it took a bit of time before they could find someone to replace him.   They decided on him but at a price! as the band were originally a 4 piece and he said that he wanted his guitarist with him and the original singer was also the lead guitar. Obviously not being professional when it comes to money for the gigs it is now split 5 ways and not 4.
The first time I videoed them last year with the new singer I guessed that he had an operatic voice, but the rest of the band hadn't a clue and he only told them this year that he wanted to try "something different".
All the band are Spanish apart from the bass player who is English and a near neighbor of mine in Mojacar. Most of the audio on my videos of bands are recorded with a separate sound recorder either via microphones or direct off the sound mixer desk and synced in post.
I actually filmed this the other night.

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Please watch for the first 50 odd seconds and you will be surprised at our local rock band lead singer!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxFgDm6fJ4o

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Albert Ross wrote:
GStree wrote:

  I haven't caught it yet (fortunately)

Is that because you are social distancing? We are led to believe that it is so very contagious, especially when indoors.

Personally I have no idea whether I have had it or not, taken the odd test about a year ago which came back negative, but the symptoms are so very similar to the common cold that it's almost impossible to say cold or covid.

The biggest problem is that the tests have been proven to give false positives, so it seems to me that they are worse than useless.

I hope that your wife gets back to peak fitness very soon.

Cheers Albert, I honestly don't know what to say as there are so many "experts" on this on social media and the "Daily Rubbish".      All I know is that my wife has certainly had it once that we actually know about (if the test kits work) and probably had it two years back when it wasn't worldwide news!  Back then we were still sleeping together, and I don't remember having any problems, but she was very ill for about a week. We were in Spain at the time and when we came back to the UK she went to the doctors who asked her if she had been to China! 
Last month we went to the Goodwood Revival and met loads of friends from my past in motor racing and some have recorded that they have tested positive as well since the event. Although she is a bit out of salt's we are wandering about along the local beaches with no trouble.

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You may well be right, my wife had covid at Christmas 2020 but it wasn't diagnosed back then, she caught it again about 3 weeks back but have no idea where she picked it up !  I haven't caught it yet (fortunately)

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Hi is anyone there ?  Since I last posted my wife caught covid! however she is on the mend and we are in southern Spain for a while, so I shall probably be out and about with my camcorder in the next week. Cheers.

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ericlnz wrote:

A recent visit to a local historic homestead https://vimeo.com/750308488

At 150 years old it's not historic for many of you guys, but it is for us. 

The servants quarters remind me of my great, great, great aunt.  In the UK 1851 census for Gloucestershire she was shown as 18 (actually 15) and a Lady's Maid at a house with 14 inmates in Cheltenham.  Not much to look forward to.  In July 1854, aged 18, she travelled to London and boarded the ship "Emigrant" along with 316 Government Emigrants, probably mainly young girls sailing to Adelaide, South Australia.  What an adventure.

I like that video Eric, going back in time to show how people lived without all the mod cons that we have today. Mind you some of those things may well be coming back into use the way things are going at the moment.
Until I was 4 years old, we lived in a farmworker's cottage beside a hop garden about a quarter of a mile from the nearest road. We had no running water or electricity but of course we didn't know any difference, when we moved into a brand-new council house in 1951 it was amazing being able to actually flick a switch and a light would come on!!!  and turn a tap and water would appear all as if by magic. My elder brother and sister were highly delighted in flushing the toilet that used to terrorize me with the noise.  The house we now live in is 500 years old and oak beamed complete with a duck's nest fireplace, I fitted a wood burning stove into the huge space that keeps us warm and we can boil a kettle or even cook on it in the winter months if we are in the UK

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This one shows more of what goes on from 2017, although it's on the same idea .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIO4BLMXV6c

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Albert Ross wrote:

I don't think you can beat this video you made a few years ago Gordon. https://youtu.be/8mRPQNhLA-M It has a lot more pace about it, and in my humble is a lot more visually appealing.

It's a bit like myself when I keep videoing the same subject over and over, I tend to run out of ideas, there's only so many angles you can use. My first video I took of Hyde Hall for example, is probably the best version I took.

Albert Ross The one that I made the other day was unfortunately miserable and wet, so it wasn't the best to get enthusiastic about. As I had already taken a fair bit of "footage" I decided to make it a little bit different with the poem and music to tell the story.
Also, I had to leave before Bob the owner served tea and biscuits in the hop garden that is part of the day, so I missed filming that and a "cuppa" and a ginger nut for myself!
Incidentally the last frame on the video that you mentioned I purposely left the wasp on the cake !

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Hi eric, I did put a bit more information on my YouTube site regarding the machine picking,  I have also put a video on previously showing the 70 year old machine that they use. The hand picking is just a bit of fun for old times sake on the first day.
I made this time-lapse video a while back showing the old machine up at the Brewery.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcJLxzMFimc

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Despite the rain we had on Tuesday the annual "Hand Hop Picking" took place at Larkins Farm Chiddingstone Kent.
Unfortunately this year I couldn't spend much time there as I had another engagement, also it was curtailed because of rain.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBtPT6tdmlY&t

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OK Guys n Girls I am back on line with the new laptop. All this palaver is testing me !!