The mov file created by the Kodak camera is as follows:
mov, codec mpeg4, bitrate 243926, audio codec PCM_mdlaw, 1 channnel, mono, bitrate 128000
640 480, 4:3, Frame rate 99999, not interlaced
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The mov file created by the Kodak camera is as follows:
mov, codec mpeg4, bitrate 243926, audio codec PCM_mdlaw, 1 channnel, mono, bitrate 128000
640 480, 4:3, Frame rate 99999, not interlaced
Before rewrap:
mp4, codec h264, bitrate 1600514, codec aac, 2 channels, bitrate 156225
After rewrap:
mov, codec h264, bitrate 1560350, codec aac, 2 channels, bitrate 156405
I'll see if I can't report on the codecs inside the containers...
Hi thanks for the reply. Agreed. I've been doing some testing to try and sort things out so that I can use MoviePlus in the least painful way. Basically the purpose of the post is to show the route I am using to understand what is happening and get something into the software. For example, I have a Kodak EasyShare DX7590 I use a lot and it records mov files. My spouse and I also record mp4 videos on our cellphones and therein lies the stumbling block for most I think. So far it appears that mov appears to be the container of choice for importing files into MoviePlus so the problem becomes how do you get the mp4 file into mov in a way that allows MoviePlus to edit the video.
I've tried a couple of tests with various things, including OpenShot, (which did something strange to the video) but what appears to work nicely, going from my cell mp4 to mov is ShutterEncoder.
https://www.shutterencoder.com/en/
It will rewrap the mp4 file to mov and it opens ok in MoviePlus (so far). That seems less invasive? It is free to download but its author is looking for donations. Here's a screen capture of the rewrap settings:
I haven't tried Handbrake yet.
The Find Codec button is not enabled despite some indications that alternate codecs should be available for example the text in the help reads:
Codecs are managed from Tools>Options>File Types (click the Codec Manager... button). The dialog stores records of trusted and alternative codecs that reside on your computer after installing third-party software (codec packs and media players). It is possible to build up a list of trusted codecs for each format listed in the Formats box—this can be done manually or automatically when selecting an alternative codec during the Find Codec operation.
These trusted codecs can be prioritized with Move Up or Move Down buttons such that the topmost codec is highest priority.
The Select button allows you to add a codec from the Alternative codec list into the Trusted Codec list for the currently selected Format. The Remove button does the opposite.
Serif's instructions regarding the use of the Codes follows below:
Using the Media pane
Media files with unknown codecs are easily spotted in the Media pane as they show a warning symbol in the thumbnail.Media files with and without poster thumbnail
To trust media file codecs:
Select the problem media file (with thumbnail as above).Click the Find Codec button on the top of the Media pane. From the Find Codec dialog, the media file is interrogated (to read its format) so that an alternative codec can be offered.
Click OK to try the suggested codec. If the media file's thumbnail no longer shows a warning, then you've successfully resolved your codec issue. You can use your file in MoviePlus as any other.
You may prefer to use another suggested codec, by clicking the List alternative codecs... button. The subsequent dialog lets you select from a list of other alternative codecs.
Select a codec from the list and click OK to check the file's thumbnail as before. The codec will become a trusted codec and will be added to the end of a trusted Codec list (in Codec Manager dialog).
It is possible that you may find video clips already present on your timeline which no longer possess poster thumbnails. This may be because the codecs which were previously trusted by a third party may not be present on your computer (if you are inheriting a MoviePlus project from another computer).
To enable such clips again, right-click on the clip, select Find Codec... from the menu, and follow the instructions described in To trust media file codecs above.
Now when I select either an mpg or mp4 file they are locked and the Find Codec Button (1) to find an alternative codec is disabled. I have to tinker with this further.
Video:
There are mov files in MoviePlus installation paths:
C:\Program Files (x86)\Serif\MoviePlus\X6 Digital Edition\Media\Overlays
You can find wmv, mpg, and mvp files here:
C:\Program Files (x86)\Serif\MoviePlus\X6 Digital Edition\Samples
Audio:
There are wma files here:
C:\Program Files (x86)\Serif\MoviePlus\X6 Digital Edition\Tutorials\Workspace\Tutorials Workspace\Audio
There are mp3 files here:
C:\Program Files (x86)\Serif\MoviePlus\X6 Digital Edition\QuickMovies\Music
This is the excerpt from the license regarding MPEG, presented for information:
"C. MPEG LA, MPEG
Any use of this product other than consumer personal use in any manner that complies with the MPEG-2 standard for encoding video information for packaged media is expressly prohibited without a license under applicable patents in the MPEG-2 patent portfolio, which license is available from MPEG LA, L.L.C., 250 Steele Street, Suite 300 , Denver Colorado 80206
THIS PRODUCT IS LICENSED UNDER THE AVC PATENT PORTFOLIO LICENSE FOR THE PERSONAL USE OF A CONSUMER OR OTHER USES IN WHICH IT DOES NOT RECEIVE REMUNERATION TO (i) ENCODE VIDEO IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE AVC STANDARD (“AVC VIDEO”) AND/OR (ii) DECODE AVC VIDEO THAT WAS ENCODED BY A CONSUMER ENGAGED IN A PERSONAL ACTIVITY AND/OR WAS OBTAINED FROM A VIDEO PROVIDER LICENSED TO PROVIDE AVC VIDEO. NO LICENSE IS GRANTED OR SHALL BE IMPLIED FOR ANY OTHER USE. ADDITIONAL INFORMATION MAY BE OBTAINED FROM MPEG LA, L.L.C. SEE HTTP://WWW.MPEGLA.COM"
MPEGLA is now http://www.via-la.com/
MoviePlus requires Quicktime which is currently available from apple: https://support.apple.com/kb/DL837?view … cale=en_US
"Important: QuickTime 7 for Windows is no longer supported by Apple. New versions of Windows since 2009 have included support for the key media formats, such as H.264 and AAC, that QuickTime 7 enabled. All current Windows web browsers support video without the need for browser plug-ins. If you no longer need QuickTime 7 on your PC, follow the instructions for uninstalling QuickTime 7 for Windows."
I install Quicktime, assuming that MoviePlus needs it to be present, prior to installing Serif's software; even though it may be currently present in Windows.
What's Good and What's Not Out of the Box
Like some, I no longer have the unlock codes to the codecs so I thought that a discussion of what is good and what is not in the default installation of MoviePlus X6 might be useful. I still like the software despite not being able to do everything I'd like. Plus, no pun intended; what are the workarounds if any.
I imported a .mov file (that's an Apple Quicktime file) as my test file. MoviePlus prompts during installation for Quicktime but I have it installed. With the file in the video track I then tried to export to file:
Do Work:
Quicktime (*.mov)
Windows Media Audio and Video (*.wmv)
Audio:
Windows Media Audio (*.wma)
Waveform Audio (*.wav)
Do not work:
MP4 Video (*.mp4)
MPEG Video (*.mpg; *mrts; *.m2t)
Video for Windows (*.avi)
The licensing Serif used for the MP4 video and AAC appears to have originated from a company: www.mpegla.com which is now www.via-la.com.
What I am interested in is the function in MoviePlus which is supposed to allow users to select an alternative codec. When a codec is not found for imported media it is supposed to show a broken icon and then the user is supposed to be able to search for an alternative. What happens to me is that the icon defaults to locked for mp4 and then the search button is disabled.
Also, I'm going to look at possible workarounds which may involve simply using other software to convert *.mov or *.wmv files to *.mp4 by other means.
I am giving OpenShot video editor a try.
I wasn't aware I had to export my PagePlus codecs for re-use on my new PC so now I can only work with mov and wmf out of the box, which is pretty limiting. I can't export to mp4. I'm trying to add additional codecs but that seems to require having a sample file up front and that is if the software can find a codec for the file in media. It doesn't seem possible to load a 3rd party codec up front.
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