An interesting article. I feel I have learned some things about art.

I noticed this within the text.

> Certainly, a few contemporary AI “artists” have never experienced any level of critique, until they posted their “work” on social media.

One thing that I have never done is purport that I produced the art generated by Bing Chat AI. I have always stated that the image was produced by Bing Chat AI. i have stated that I authored the prompt for that particular artwork.

I would be interested to know what readers, some of whom may be professional artists, think of four images referenced here by links to another thread in this forum, perhaps by reference to the comments about the art quality of AI images made in the article to which Alfred posted a link.

https://punster.me/serif/viewtopic.php?pid=3876#p3876

https://punster.me/serif/viewtopic.php?pid=3899#p3899

https://punster.me/serif/viewtopic.php?pid=3901#p3901

https://punster.me/serif/viewtopic.php?pid=4273#p4273

Clicking on an image enlarges it, clicking again enlarges it further,

William

Thank you for the link to your book, John. That is very kind of you.

William

The 0.236 gap in the middle splits the 0.618, perhaps not surprisingly, according to the golden ratio: 0.236/0.382 is 0.618.

So,

0.618 x 1024 = 632.832 so use 633

0.382 x 1024 = 391.168 so use 391

I shall now try to use Affinity Designer to make a transparent png with four red lines on it.

William

I produced the red lines as red filled zero width bordered rectangles 1024 pixels by 3 pixels, locating them using the centre of the 3 pixel width.

So, I consider it is worth trying with grid lines at one third and two thirds.

0.667 x 1024 = 683.008 so use 683

0.333 x 1024 = 340.992 so use 341

So, back to Affinity Designer.

William

Here is a 1024 pixel by 1024 pixel png graphic that I have made using Affinity Designer software.

The graphic has a transparent background, with the centre lines in cyan, upon which are the thirds lines in green, and the golden lines in red.

The intended purpose is to explore what composition rules may have been used in images produced using Bing Chat Ai.

Readers are welcome to use the graphic with images generated by other AI systems, but I do not know what size they are.

William

It may be that in order to "right click download" a copy that one will first need to click on it then click on the result so as to get the full size image to download.

The grid lines added to the picture from

https://punster.me/serif/viewtopic.php?pid=3895#p3895

do not have the same result as with the stegosaurus picture, but there might be something.

The original picture is the one from the original prompt. I simply changed "an okapi" in a copy of the text to become "a stegosaurus" to explore whether Bing Chat AI would produce such a picture. In the event it produced a beautiful picture.

William

Moving on to page 14 of John's book.

Rabatment.

I wonder how rabatment would look on an A3 landscape picture, and on an A5 greetings card version of it.

Can rabatment and golden ratio be used in the same picture?

If so, golden ratio of the whole picture, or of one side or other,or both, of the rabatment?

William

I have had a go at producing an original picture of my own using Affinity Designer so as to feature both rabatment for the end view of a house and golden ratio for the positioning of the horizon.

I do not know why I included the sun and why I positioned it where it is, it just seemed necessary to include it and the position just seemed right.

The perspective of the roadway just sort of happened, I used what Affinity Designer refers to as the Trapezoid tool and then used a -45 degree sheer and there is was, I just needed to then move it behind the building while keeping it in front of the grass and choose a colour for it.

The original is A3 plus bleed areas in case I decide to get an A3 print. The image here is one seventh scale both horizontally and vertically.

William

I am very much a beginner with producing art, so constructive criticism of my pictures is welcome.

William

While recognizing that this thread has, due to me, drifted off-topic, but, well, with your forbearance please.

In July 2024 I tried a watercolour brush in the Affinity Designer software program, looking at how overlapping brush strokes look.

Well, rather than just arbitrary brush strokes I decided to try to sort of sketch a seascape of the tide coming in over a beach, thus sky, sea, sand.

Using only one colour for each, so three colours in total.

The result seems to have more than three colours,but that is due to the overlapping of the brush strokes.

I started with an A2 landscape canvas, then I added an A3 plus bleed areas rectangle in the centre.

First I did the sky, then the sand, then the sea. This order as I wanted to try to have the effect of the sand being visible through the water of the incoming tide where the leading part of the water was not very deep.

So most overlapping of brush strokes of sky upon sky, sand upon sand, sea upon sea, yet some sea upon sand.

As it happened, rather than just leave the result as an electronic image, I made a copy of the Affinity Designer file and in that copy I enlarged the guide rectangle a little to become double the size, both horizontally and vertically, of the size needed for A5 plus bleed areas, then exported that selection at exactly half size as a png (Portable Network Graphics) graphics file, using measurement in units of pixels for maximum accuracy. I bought a giclée print and framed it.

Until yesterday, I had been thinking that I should have put the horizon across the middle of the picture. But after reading (part thus far) of the book to which John kindly supplied a link, I now realize that it is good that I had not put the horizon across the middle.

So, bearing in mind that I am a beginner and how the picture came to exist, I am wondering what is good and what is not so good about its composition.

Is the horizon in the right place?

If not, where would it be better placed?

Is the sea and sand "quasi-horizon" where the sea meets the visible sand in the right place? I have sometimes thought it is too high up the picture, but it is an incoming tide, not the tide already in.

The illustration is approximately half in both directions of the A5 plus bleed areas png graphic, so around A7 in size.

William