Re: The modalities of using Bing Chat AI later Copilot to produce pictures

I have tried various styles and they all seem to work.

Claude Monet, Renoir, Van Gogh, Vermeer, Leonardo, Botticelli, Limbourg brothers, Bayeux Tapestry, Lascaux Cave.

Has anyone tried any others please?

William

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“A painting, in the style of Wassily Kandinsky, of a woman playing a virginal.”

https://i.postimg.cc/DJy5K6pd/IMG-1598.jpg

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― Eckhart Tolle

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“A painting, in the style of Franz Marc, of a woman playing a virginal.”

https://i.postimg.cc/ftnZ23HN/IMG-1599.jpg

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― Eckhart Tolle

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“A painting, in the style of the German expressionist Franz Marc, of a woman playing a virginal.”

https://i.postimg.cc/fSMssGnq/IMG-1600.jpg

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Re: The modalities of using Bing Chat AI later Copilot to produce pictures

Interestingly, two of the pictures in this forum are found as images by the Bing search facility, but not the one in the story.

https://forum.affinity.serif.com/index. … nt=1230493

But is that because the title is not stated explicitly?

So, I will now try to add three posts and observe whether Bing search will pick up the pictures.

William

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Lady reading haiku to an elephant.

https://i.postimg.cc/HrN3vzDb/123c5eb6-b88e-4f57-b3ce-b53cf7aa1316.jpg

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Lady reading haiku to an elephant

https://i.postimg.cc/2bdSX0J6/square-chalk-005.jpg

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Lady reading haiku to an elephant.

https://i.postimg.cc/RJNVVvh3/287de242-7f4e-49f2-8813-fe33d89efdc6.jpg

Re: The modalities of using Bing Chat AI later Copilot to produce pictures

I tried to produce a picture of Geoffrey Chaucer with an astrolabe. Chaucer wrote about an astrolabe.

But Bing Chat AI refused.

Testing, with a New Topic each time, it appears that the refusal is for Geoffrey Chaucer. A request about an astrolabe produces pictures.

I wonder why. Any ideas?

William

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Why do you refuse to paint a picture of Geoffrey Chaucer?

I’m here to assist with a wide range of requests, but creating visual art of real historical figures like Geoffrey Chaucer is not within my capabilities. However, I can provide information about him, discuss his works, or even help you create a written piece inspired by his style. If there’s anything else you’d like to know or do related to Geoffrey Chaucer, feel free to ask!

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Ah!

Re: The modalities of using Bing Chat AI later Copilot to produce pictures

William wrote:

I tried to produce a picture of Geoffrey Chaucer with an astrolabe. Chaucer wrote about an astrolabe.

But Bing Chat AI refused.


William wrote:

Why do you refuse to paint a picture of Geoffrey Chaucer?

Bing Chat AI wrote:

I’m here to assist with a wide range of requests, but creating visual art of real historical figures like Geoffrey Chaucer is not within my capabilities. However, I can provide information about him, discuss his works, or even help you create a written piece inspired by his style. If there’s anything else you’d like to know or do related to Geoffrey Chaucer, feel free to ask!


Gencraft doesn’t have any such qualms!

https://i.postimg.cc/Xr28fDF2/5-A77-AA8-E-79-A0-494-E-9076-89-D5-E21-DE569.png

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Re: The modalities of using Bing Chat AI later Copilot to produce pictures

Whereas

https://punster.me/serif/viewtopic.php?pid=4017#p4017

and

https://punster.me/serif/viewtopic.php?pid=4018#p4018

have some beautiful pictures.

Today, using Bing Chat AI, as before, I tried the prompt

Please produce an impressionist painting in the style of Pierre-Auguste Renoir of a lady facing forward with long hair flowing loosely down both sides of her body in front of her.

But the results were a mixture of like modern photographs and some line drawings.

I tried three times, with a New Topic reset before each attempt.

I then tried using just the surname Renoir, yet similar results.

Please produce an impressionist painting in the style of Renoir of a lady facing forward with long hair flowing loosely down both sides of her body in front of her.

Similar results again.

So I tried with no artist named, as in the first of the two posts referenced earlier in this post.

Please produce an impressionist painting of a lady facing forward with long hair flowing loosely down both sides of her body in front of her.

Still the same.

So I am wondering why such beautiful impressionist style pictures are not being generated.

I used a New Topic reset before each attempt.

I wonder if some change has been made to the system.

William

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21:01 Wednesday 28 August 2024

The computer has been off for a while. Now rebooted.

Try going back to a simpler prompt, as for the beautiful painting from Tuesday 9 January 2024.

https://punster.me/serif/viewtopic.php?pid=3876#p3876

Please produce an original impressionist painting of a lady in a long green dress feeding an okapi.

I got some pictures but they did not have that impressionist look. More like stills from a 1950s colour movie.

After trying various things I got some more pictures and this one is the best in my opinion, but it does not seem to me to have that impressionist look.

https://i.postimg.cc/H8pdRRjp/20f34619-00f4-465a-80f0-c91d202e8bf5.jpg

Along the way I received some adverts for impressionist style prints.

Also, some links, which I include here.


https://www.bing.com/search?q=impressionist+paintings

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impressionism

https://www.nationalgallery.org.uk/pain … ressionism

https://www.worldhistory.org/collection … rt-foreve/

https://mymodernmet.com/famous-impressionist-paintings/

William

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The picture in the previous post seems to me more like the style in the following painting.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gather_Ye … ting_1909)

William

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I have found this template to be good if one wants to use a square picture from Bing Chat AI and get all the detail up to the edge of the picture.

https://www.papier.com/customise/you-me-15189

One gets the whole picture with a white border.

Alternatively, the full field template is good for a square picture if one is willing to lose some of the detail at the edge to being cut off as being in a bleed area.

https://www.papier.com/customise/square-photo-314

William

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I tried to find out whether a prompt consisting of a combination of an image and some text would work.


https://i.postimg.cc/bSnBT4N5/composition-001.png

Please paint a landscape picture. Please use the file that I have uploaded as a guide to the layout of the composition. Replace the red rectangle with a lady in the style of Botticelli's Primavera, looking towards the right of the picture. Replace the blue rectangle with an artist, seated, with a palette and a paint brush, looking to the right of the picture. Replace the green rectangle with an easel with a partially complete picture of San Gimignano.





https://i.postimg.cc/JGRfq2mm/Copilot-20251020-120708.png

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https://i.postimg.cc/tsv893f4/composition-002.png

Please paint a landscape picture. Please use the file that I have uploaded as a guide to the layout of the composition. Replace the green rectangle with the hilltop town of San Gimigano in the far distance. Replace the blue triangle with Leonardo da Vinci's flying machine flying in the middle distance. Replace the red rectangle with a lady in the style of Botticelli's Primavera, in the foreground, looking towards the middle distance, viewing the flying machine admiringly.





https://i.postimg.cc/Hrrdwh4T/Copilot-20251020-123636.png

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William wrote:

San Gimigano

I presume you meant to type San Gimignano as in your earlier prompt.

Without the n before the a it would be pronounced

/san dʒimiˈgaːno/

instead of

/san dʒimiɲˈɲaːno/

https://www.howtopronounce.com/san-gimignano

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― Eckhart Tolle

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William wrote:

https://i.postimg.cc/tsv893f4/composition-002.png

Please paint a landscape picture. Please use the file that I have uploaded as a guide to the layout of the composition. Replace the green rectangle with the hilltop town of San Gimigano in the far distance. Replace the blue triangle with Leonardo da Vinci's flying machine flying in the middle distance. Replace the red rectangle with a lady in the style of Botticelli's Primavera, in the foreground, looking towards the middle distance, viewing the flying machine admiringly.





https://i.postimg.cc/Hrrdwh4T/Copilot-20251020-123636.png

Which triangle are you referring to?

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Ali wrote:

Which triangle are you referring to?

The rectangular one, obviously! https://punster.me/images/tongue.gif

“Welcome to the present moment. Here. Now. The only moment there ever is.”
― Eckhart Tolle

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Ali wrote:

Which triangle are you referring to?

I realized, after I had got the result, that I had in error put 'triangle' instead of 'rectangle'.

I left it as it had been when the experiment had taken place.

Being in error is not good, but it is important not to falsify what actually happened in the experiment.

Here is what Copilot wrote after producing the picture.

Here it is—your Renaissance-inspired landscape is ready {palette emoji redacted}. The composition follows your layout beautifully:

Foreground (left): A Botticelli-style lady in a flowing red and gold gown, her gaze lifted admiringly toward the sky.

Middle distance (upper center-right): Leonardo da Vinci’s ornithopter gliding gracefully, its canvas wings catching the light.

Far distance (lower center-right): The iconic towers of San Gimignano rise above the Tuscan hills, bathed in warm sunlight.

Click the card above to view or download the image. Let me know if you'd like to adjust any details or explore another scene!

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William wrote:
Ali wrote:

Which triangle are you referring to?

I realized, after I had got the result, that I had in error put 'triangle' instead of 'rectangle'.

Do we actually need all those different names for polygonal variants? After all, a triangle is a rectangle with one side of zero length. In a similar vein, a pentagon can be regarded as a decagon half of whose sides are of zero length! https://punster.me/images/tongue.gif

“Welcome to the present moment. Here. Now. The only moment there ever is.”
― Eckhart Tolle

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Alfred wrote:

After all, a triangle is a rectangle with one side of zero length.

An isoceles triangle.

Continuing, Alfred wrote:

In a similar vein, a pentagon can be regarded as a decagon half of whose sides are of zero length! https://punster.me/images/tongue.gif

Hmm.

I wonder what angles are involved for that.

Please consider too a quadrilateral where the angle between two of the sides is 180 degrees.

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William wrote:
Alfred wrote:

After all, a triangle is a rectangle with one side of zero length.

An isosceles triangle.

A rectangle with one side of zero length would be a right-angled triangle. I should, of course, have said a quadrilateral with one side of zero length, which could be isosceles.

William wrote:
Continuing, Alfred wrote:

In a similar vein, a pentagon can be regarded as a decagon half of whose sides are of zero length! https://punster.me/images/tongue.gif

Hmm.

I wonder what angles are involved for that.

Please consider too a quadrilateral where the angle between two of the sides is 180 degrees.

Please also consider that the sum of the internal angles in a quadrilateral is 360°, but the sum of the internal angles in a triangle is only 180°.

“Welcome to the present moment. Here. Now. The only moment there ever is.”
― Eckhart Tolle