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Alfred's Serif Users' Forums → General Discussion → Affinity is joining the Canva family
Ali wrote:And there was me hoping that the pointless speculation wouldn't follow us here ...
Ali this is neither pointless or speculation.
What evidence?
Serif/Canva are not revealing anything at this point, so all anyone can do is wait and see.
sneil69 wrote:Ali wrote:And there was me hoping that the pointless speculation wouldn't follow us here ...
Ali this is neither pointless or speculation.
What evidence?
Serif/Canva are not revealing anything at this point, so all anyone can do is wait and see.
I am saying nothing until the 30th but trust me on this one!
I am saying nothing until the 30th but trust me on this one!
I have no good reason to trust you, so no, I won't - sorry.
My best guess would be a hybrid approach to pricing - a mixed economy.
sneil69 wrote:I am saying nothing until the 30th but trust me on this one!
I have no good reason to trust you, so no, I won't - sorry.
But do you have any reason not to trust them?
Do you always look on the negative?
Judge not lest you be judged....
My best guess would be a hybrid approach to pricing - a mixed economy.
I would agree with (hope for) that. A stand-alone perpetual V3 and a web based subscription as per the "normal" Canva model.
But do you have any reason not to trust them?
Where and when did I say that I did not trust Serif?
Do you always look on the negative?
No, never. I have been completely positive about the future of Affinity, so much so that I received much criticism and much name-calling on the now read-only Affinity Forums. I'm a glass half full kinda gal!
Judge not lest you be judged....
No problem - we all judge each other. We assess each other and decide to what extent we trust each other. When someone tells me they know something, but are not willing to show me any proof, I tend not to trust them. Nothing personal, just common sense.
sneil69 wrote:I am saying nothing until the 30th but trust me on this one!
I have no good reason to trust you, so no, I won't - sorry.
My best guess would be a hybrid approach to pricing - a mixed economy.
It does not matter - The trust me was more rhetorical
I know what I know and believe me it is more than what you know
Let's just leave it at that.
Whether anyone trusts or distrusts anyone on this matter is entirely irrelevant and to argue about it is pointless and idiotic! To quote the greatest President money can buy, "We'll see what happens."
the greatest President money can buy
LOL. 
Canva started recruiting contributors in 2014, looking for photographs. As far as I can tell the key person is Melanie Perkins (CEO today, apparently). So, in a little more than 10 years she and her crew turned Canva into a serious competitor reputedly worth more than $1B.
I expect she’ll quickly bend Affinity to her purpose, and if a Subscription model serves the purposes of the 3 founders, I would not expect them to be slow.
We’re getting to show and tell time.
Regards
Lionel
Welcome, Lionel! Thanks for joining us here.
Thanks, good to be here.
Alright.
4) They keep focussing on pro features and a designer online who is helping them says ipretty convincing in a video (although clearly made with permissiong/cooperation of Canva) 'they really listened', while talking about pro features (and says that our minds will pop when we'll see it... so although that's still marketing talk to me, those are also big words making it risky if they don't have at least something good)
Do you have a link to this video?
Your points sound promising.
3) Their personel keeps calling it Affinity in communication here and there. So I would be surprised if the name Affinity would vanish
It would make sense keeping the name somehow; there are a lot of positive articles, reviews, and word of mouth found with any fast Google search. This is just pure golden rules in marketing; I wouldn't throw that away (but you never know). It's a very strong presence, which means everything in SEO. And mostly, that the brand and product names are well considered and have good prestige, unlike with other companies and products.
Browser-based wouldn't be that great for professional work for heavy raster files for print, RAW processing, etc. For UI/UX prototyping? Sure, Figma is total proof that such kind of browser based design app works well for professional teams. But as long as it's that, UI/UX, low fi graphics.
I don't think they can discard desktop without discarding the pro world, honestly...
wVanDyck wrote:Do you have a link to this video?
I haven't searched for the original original video, but had watched this video via a talk in the youtube comments under another video and it looks and sounds legit to me:
Thanks so much for sharing the link! This definitely puts a different, more encouraging spin on the situation compared to the tortuous uncertainty of waiting and speculating.
They really want us to know that they 'really listened' and nobody asked for that. Also serious professionals don't want potentionally unsafe tools where your work is stored somewhere else / copyright and privacy issues / unstable internet / services offline etc.. Preferrably even working without any connection needed. So I don't believe they would go that way. If anything than optionally extra.
All of this makes sense. Fingers of both hands crossed while hoping for a wow announcement on the 30th.
SrPx wrote:Browser-based wouldn't be that great for professional work for heavy raster files for print, RAW processing, etc. For UI/UX prototyping? Sure, Figma is total proof that such kind of browser based design app works well for professional teams. But as long as it's that, UI/UX, low fi graphics.
They really want us to know that they 'really listened' and nobody asked for that. Also serious professionals don't want potentionally unsafe tools where your work is stored somewhere else / copyright and privacy issues / unstable internet / services offline etc.. Preferrably even working without any connection needed. So I don't believe they would go that way. If anything than optionally extra.
Ali wrote:sneil69 wrote:I am saying nothing until the 30th but trust me on this one!
I have no good reason to trust you, so no, I won't - sorry.
My best guess would be a hybrid approach to pricing - a mixed economy.
It does not matter - The trust me was more rhetorical
I know what I know and believe me it is more than what you know
Let's just leave it at that.
Ok, I'll just say this: I can neither confirm nor deny how NDAs signed with Serif work and, as you just said, let's just leave it at that, so… Are you on the same boat? 
Are you on the same boat?
In the same boat, or merely on the same page? 
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