26 Reply by APoster

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Alfred wrote:

There’s probably something covering the area that should be clickable. Please share your *.wpp file or a cut-down version of it, or at least attach a screenshot showing the layer structure.

Thanks Alfred,

I hope screenshots will be sufficient to illustrate how the Show-Hide for a hidden text box is setup. I don't know how to copy the HTML for only this one page. I can't find anything covering the visible or hidden text boxes. The "click here for popup" is in front of the graphic arrow. I don't know how to show the Layer Structure.

A. Image "WebPlus X8" is a screenshot of the hidden text box with a graphic arrow and a text box set to popup the hidden text.

B. Image "show hide text 1568" is where I used a Text Box to popup a hidden Text Box.

C. Image "text frame action" is the CSS setting for Visibility from the Show Hide text to the Hidden text.

D. Image "btn_44" was just a quick attempt for an alternative to the Text Box. It didn't work either.

E. Image "click show hide" is the section of HTML that includes the Arrow, Text Box, and Button.





A. Web-Plus-X8 https://i.postimg.cc/JDKLCC7J/Web-Plus-X8-popup-text-box.png


B. Show-Hide-Text-1568  https://i.postimg.cc/gwVy93Qr/Show-Hide-Text-1568.png


C. Text-frame-Action  https://i.postimg.cc/fVjQJr0m/Text-frame-Action.png


D. btn-44-grp-1239  https://i.postimg.cc/d7YQfCGh/btn-44-grp-1239.png


E. click-show-hide  https://i.postimg.cc/QKtdbrc3/click-show-hide.png

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27 Topic by APoster

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Serif Web Plus X8   16.0.4.32

Popup doesn't work

# Created a Box plus Text, then grouped as grp1239, CSS visibility is hidden

# Created an Arrow image plus Text, then added CSS Action :
"grp 1239 Show on click, hide when click elsewhere"

# I want to click on the arrow and/or text to make the hidden box/text group visible.

# I've tried with Arrow and Text separate, and as a Group.
    I also tried a Buttton design.

# When I click on the Arrow or the Text nothing happens

I've been doing similar popups for years, but only on rare occasions. What am I missing here?


https://i.postimg.cc/JDKLCC7J/Web-Plus-X8-popup-text-box.png

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28 Topic by APoster

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I don't know what I did to change the workspace layout. I got it back to this point, but the Pages used to have names instead of numbers. Suggestions to change back to named pages.

Example : Page 10 should say "Post 147 Right Stuff"



https://i.postimg.cc/562rqfqj/Web-Plus-X8-toolbar-pages.png

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29 Reply by APoster

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Joe wrote:

I think you will find that the superscripts 1 2 3 are at the top of the page of symbols and the other numbers near the bottom.


https://i.postimg.cc/nstkzTJr/supersc.jpg

Joe

Thanks. I thought I had searched for stray numbers. But now I can find the missing superscripts cleverly hidden in the middle of a page of random symbols. This may be a solution to my added linespace problem, but it's still a lot of work to move all the numbers into one place, in the selected character line at the bottom of the page.

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30 Reply by APoster

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Joe wrote:

This is probably an ugly solution but here goes:

Type in a number at the appropriate place within your text.
Highlight it > Right click > Text format >Character > Superscript. Change size to around 8pt.

This will give you superscript with any number you want to use.

Thanks for the tip. I had tried it before and found that it added a linespace above, which is the problem I was trying to avoid.  I work hard to make my HTML documents look like printed works. But the inherent HTML and WebPlus limitations make it almost impossible. Using the Insert/Symbol/Other worked well for several years, but now that option too is blocked by the missing 1,2,3 in the list of superscript symbols.

Alas, I continue my search for a superscript sans linespace.


PS___ I found that Unicode superscripts will work, but it's a lot of work to go outside WebPlus to copy & paste from these websites : 

https://academy.datawrapper.de/article/ … atawrapper

https://www.fileformat.info/info/unicod … subscripts


Apparently WebPlus X8 is not Unicode compliant. Any ideas for a Unicode shortcut or workaround?

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31 Reply by APoster

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Alfred wrote:

Those superscript numerals are actually included in the fonts you mention, but I think the problem is that (for historical reasons) they aren’t in the contiguous block that you were expecting.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unicode_s … ipts_block

That's strange. I've been using Arial superscripts via Font, Insert, Symbol, Other for several years. But the 1,2,3 superscripts have only recently disappeared from the table of symbols. Does that make sense to you?

Note : For convenience, I've retained all superscript numbers on the bottom line of the table. But as I add new symbols, the old ones get bumped off. Naively, I thought I could just add them back in, but discovered that the most common superscripts are missing from the current table. In my technical writing I use a lot of footnotes.

PS___ I've been using Arial superscripts instead of Verdana to make them small but noticeable and readable. Now the Verdana table of symbols is also missing the numbers 1,2,3.

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32 Reply by APoster

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Alfred wrote:
APoster wrote:

Now, for unknown reasons, the available superscripts at Text, Insert, Symbol are missing half the numbers in all fonts, starting at 0 then 56789.

What fonts have you tested? There are hundreds of thousands of fonts out there, but the ones that include a full set of superscripts are probably very much in the minority, with most of the rest only including ² and ³.

Serif WebPlus X8

Body text font is Verdana, and I've tried several others for superscripts, including Arial & Times New Roman & WingDings. All fonts I looked at had the same missing numbers (123) for superscripts [see image below]. Subscripts have a full set of numbers. I've been using superscripts from Arial for the last couple of years.

https://i.postimg.cc/Ln8fK1qz/Arial-Missing-Superscripts.png


Is there a workaround to prevent WebPlus from adding space above the line to accommodate superscripts in "text, character, superscripts"? In the image below "Organic Energy" has a superscript from Arial a year or two ago, but "Physical Energy" has a new superscript added today.  Notice the extra linespace above the superscript "4".

https://i.postimg.cc/8FNf4fVp/Superscripts-old-and-new.png

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33 Reply by APoster

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GB wrote:

What program are you using?

Serif WebPlus X8
from many years ago

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34 Topic by APoster

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For several years I've been using special font superscripts for notes 1, 2, 3 etc.

Example :  philosophy³

That's because the built-in superscripts increase the linespace above the text, disrupting the look of the text blocks.

Now, for unknown reasons, the available superscripts at Text, Insert, Symbol are missing half the numbers in all fonts, starting at 0 then 56789. But for subscripts all the numbers are available : 0123456789.

Do you know of a workaround for superscripts that don't add a linespace?

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35 Topic by APoster

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WebPlus X8 on Windows 11

For print media, WebPlus can produce a text document that looks like what you see onscreen. But for HTML websites, the text looks completely different. Especially, left-aligned paragraphs look very ragged, and un-professional, on the right margin. When appearance is important I have laboriously substituted words to make the right margin look neater.

I'm aware that there are apps, e.g. MS Front Page, that claim to be WYSIWYG editors. But I prefer to use WebPlus.

Is there any less-laborious, and cheap, method to reproduce HTML on the internet that looks reasonably close to what we see on-screen?

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36 Reply by APoster

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Joe wrote:

We are not getting anywhere. We need to see either a website or a copy of your webplus file. If you publish the file to disc and zip the folde, see if you can attach it to your next post.  If not you could email it to me

Joe : Thanks for the response. But I have already fixed the "invisible duplicate image" problem without editing the HTML.

I'm still puzzled by the inability to "cut, copy, paste" in the HTML window. Is that normal? Can it be changed?

PROBLEM SOLVED

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37 Reply by APoster

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Alfred wrote:

The fact that it say ‘Clipboard’ indicates that you added it (inadvertently!) by pasting it from the Windows clipboard. There should be a corresponding object visible in ‘Design’ view, in which case you should be able to select it there and delete it.

Alfred, thanks for the response. Unfortunately, there is no "corresponding object visible in ‘Design’ view". That's why I tried to find and delete the extraneous code in the HTML view. I found it, but can't change it.

I have already fixed the "duplicate image" problem without editing the HTML. But for future reference, I'd like to know why I can't "cut, copy, paste" in the HTML window. Is there some setting that I'm not aware of? I vaguely remember, years ago, being able to edit the HTML window as WYSIWYG.

The bottom line here is that WebPlus' HTML Editor is nothing more than a Code Viewer. For future reference, is there another HTML Editor in which I could actually Cut, Copy, and Paste line items in the code?

PROBLEM SOLVED

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38 Topic by APoster

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Serif WebPlus X8

In my current document I can view the HTML code, but it does not allow me to actually edit anything. When I right click in the HTML page, the cut-copy-paste options are greyed out. Is there anything I can do to allow actual editing of the text? In other words, the HTML editor won't allow me to actually edit the HTML source of the page.

The image below shows the HTML lines I want to select and delete. I can select, but can't delete (cut).
Click image to expand.


https://i.postimg.cc/m1R5xs3n/HTML-lines-to-select-and-delete.png

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39 Reply by APoster

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Joe wrote:

Comming back to my first post above. You say it's displacing some of the text. Drag the frame containing the text off the page and preview. The text and image should be missing. If so, create a new text frame on the site but dont copy/paste the text from the original frame.

Thanks. I tried that, but the image does not display in WebPlus view, only in the browser preview.

The second image seems to be anchored to the text in the notes column. But it's invisible, except in the browser. Do you know how to find an anchored image? I only see the original image in the Objects list. When I click the Anchor tool, it only shows the original image, which is the one selected.

The original image is "pic 1103" in HTML, and below it is "pic 1102", which I'm guessing is the mystery image. I selected and tried to delete the HTML lines for "pic 1102", but nothing happened. Do you know how to edit or delete certain lines in HTML? I thought it was WYSIWYG.

In the WebPlus view, I deleted the original image, and it's gone in the HTML view, but the second image lines remain. And the lines for "pic 1102" are connected to the lines for the Notes text. If I could just delete the image lines, that should resolve the problem.

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40 Reply by APoster

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Joe wrote:

Can you give a link to your website?

I haven't uploaded it yet. I'm waiting until I fix the double picture problem. My first post has a screenshot of the Blog page, and of the HTML page.

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41 Reply by APoster

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Joe wrote:

Is the errant image on your master page?

No. The second copy of the picture does not display on master or current page. Only when I preview in the browser.

I think it's a redundant line in the HTML source code. I could select and delete that line. But since I'm not familiar with HTML editing, I might screw something else up.

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42 Reply by APoster

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Thanks for the reply.

The second image is not visible in the normal design view. It only displays when previewed in the browser. So I can't select it or drag it, or delete it.

I'm guessing that I can only delete it in the html view. But I'm not a coder, so without specific instructions, I could screw it up even worse.

If I don't get such instructions, I will delete the  {pic 1102} line, and see what happens.

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43 Topic by APoster

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WebPlus X8

I added a picture (object 1103) to my blog post 139 in upper left corner {object screen shot}

Later I discovered the same picture in the right text box panel. But it only displays in the browser, not in WebPlus. {pic 1102 in wrong place}

In the html list I think the second image is labeled "pic-1102" instead of "pic-1103".  {html pic-1102-and-1103}

I can't select & delete the second image, and clicking "hidden" has no effect. In the browser the pic displaces some of the text, but not in WebPlus.

I have no idea how the second image was created. Apparently a dumb mistake of some kind.

Question : How can I delete the second copy of the image?


{object screen shot}
https://i.postimg.cc/5607FBhz/Post-139-object-screenshot.png


{pic 1102 in wrong place}
https://i.postimg.cc/mzBVZC3t/pot-139-pic-in-2-places.png

{html pic-1102-and-1103}
https://i.postimg.cc/qt5M4xHG/Post-139-html-screenshot-pic-1102-and-1103.png

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44 Topic by APoster

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Serif WebPlus 16.0.4.32  1991-2014

I create my websites and blogs on a full-size PC. But when I view the page on a small screen, phone or pad, the text tends to overflow the original text boxes, and get chopped off. Also, some functions, such as YouTube videos, don't respond to a click.

I suppose modern cell phones and I-pads did not exist before Serif abandoned WebPlus.

I found this page, but it may be over my head :
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/532 … creen-size

Q: Without a lot of coding, Is there any way to automatically adjust for small screens?

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45 Reply by APoster

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Alfred wrote:

Unlike PagePlus, WebPlus doesn’t have a Paragraph tab. However, it does have a Text Styles tab where you can create and edit paragraph styles. If you’re unable to make that tab (or any other Studio tab) visible via the ‘View > Tabs’ submenu, choose the ‘Default Workspace’ option from the same submenu to reset the Studio tabs: the Text Styles tab is in the left studio by default.

Thanks. It was the "View" + "Tabs" option, instead of "Toolbars" I didn't remember, and the "Text Styles" menu that I was looking for.

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46 Reply by APoster

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Joe wrote:

I use WYSIWYG Web Builder https://www.wysiwygwebbuilder.com/ It's another learning curve but In my view it's a good alternative with a mountain of standard features and lots of available addons.

Joe

Will WYSIWYG Web Builder import WebPlus files?

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47 Topic by APoster

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WebPlus X8   16.0.4.32 (64bit)

Somewhere somewhen in the last year, my screen layout has lost a toolbar that I had used frequently. I'm not sure of the name, but it displayed Paragraph properties, among other things. I haven't been able to find it in the Toolbar menu. The attached screenshot shows where it used to be located.

I'd appreciate suggestions for the name & location of the missing toolbar. Thanks

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