William wrote:

It is interesting that emoji got going in application with Private Use Area encodings (plural) and they were not always mutually compatible.

That lack of compatibility is, of course, what prompted the development of the Unicode standard. I’m reminded of the old quip: “Engineers love standards, that’s why they have so many of them!”

William wrote:

Do you have any ideas of how the invention can become implemented and in widespread use unless it is "forward pass" encoded into Unicode first.

No, I don’t. It’s clear that you don’t, either, and that’s exactly the problem Van Anderson wrote about:

vanisaac wrote:

You are suggesting to put the full weight of the standard behind something that you think industry might support. This is cart-before-horse. There needs to be a community out there that interchanges information before you'll get interest. Get someone to use this, and everything changes. Get a vendor to support it.

William wrote:

The thing is, unless I have missed something or forgotten, nobody has ever said why my ideas are out of scope, they just tell me that they are out of scope.

Sławomir Osipiuk explained the rationale rather pithily in his post to the Unicode Mailing List:

The members of the consortium have the biases (and they ARE biased) and follow the trends of the tech industry. They want things that are either directly useful to their purposes, or that at least generate reliable public goodwill and engagement.

If you need it to be spelled out in more detail, look no further than Van Anderson’s observation in the High-Logic Font Forum thread:

The fact is that no manufacturers do produce a list of localizable sentences. Do you think that the Emoji just appeared out of nowhere? It has been decades in the works. It started with a recognition that emoticons were in use quite frequently among the non-business users of mobile phones in Japan. So one (maybe more) of the players in the mobile phone market decided to research creating little characters to meet the need that emoticons were doing on an ad-hoc basis. It has developed from there. You are suggesting to put the full weight of the standard behind something that you think industry might support. This is cart-before-horse. There needs to be a community out there that interchanges information before you'll get interest. Get someone to use this, and everything changes. Get a vendor to support it. It's the same reason Klingon PiqaD was not encoded - no one uses it to exchange information! There is no conspiracy in Unicode, and other than an absolute prejudice towards proposals that meet an actual need, there is no elitism.

It looks to me as though the problem you’re up against here is that you believe

the issue of scope is a separate issue from the requirement of needing to prove widespread usage

whereas in practice these two issues aren’t really separate at all.

William wrote:

The first picture, shown in the previous post, had four vertical panels.

The other three pictures, shown here, had four pictures arranged quarterly.

They depict the seasons, so they’re all ‘quarterly’! I think you mean ‘in quadrants’.

William wrote:

The prompt included the same poem yet a different artist was named. Readers might like to consider which artist's style was used to produce this painting.

https://i.postimg.cc/kVScp6Ks/581e9f6d-bc99-445e-8c68-340617203d3b.jpg

The swirly sky gives a strong hint that the artist named was Vincent van Gogh.

Bookworm wrote:

My original receipt email had a link where I was able to download PagePlus X9


https://i.postimg.cc/YLQPHL1t/pageplus-product-key-blanked.png

https://i.postimg.cc/qg2Dgn3T/pageplus-download.png

Thanks, Bridie, that’s very interesting! The FAQ post about how to locate your legacy order product key only mentions that sales of PagePlus X9, PhotoPlus X8 and DrawPlus X8 after 14th May 2018 resulted in the product key being added to an Affinity store account. There is no indication that there would also be a download link.

ericlnz wrote:

Serif (or whatever they are now) aren't helpful towards their old Plus customers.

Affinity is a brand created by Serif, and Serif is owned by Canva now, but the Serif name lives on (or so it seems, at least for the time being).

William wrote:

[... There was a smiley after the final sentence, which is redacted from this transcript as it might upset the forum of this software.]

Or perhaps the software of this forum! https://punster.me/images/wink.gif

William wrote:

It is winter.
The colour is white.
It is spring.
The colour is green.
The colour is yellow.
It is summer.
The colour is green.
The colour is yellow.
The colour is red.
It is autumn.
The colour is yellow.
The colour is brown.
It is winter.
It is cloudy.
The colour is grey.
It is snowing.
The colour is white.

[Enter]

Here’s what Copilot came up with when I tried it just now:

Ah, the ever-changing seasons! {Sun Behind Rain Cloud emoji} Let’s explore this poetic cycle of colors:
Winter: A serene landscape, blanketed in white snow. The world hushes, and frost paints delicate patterns on windows.
Spring: Life awakens! Green buds burst forth, leaves unfurl, and flowers bloom. The air smells fresh, and birds sing jubilant songs.
Summer: The sun reigns supreme, casting a yellow glow. Fields sway with golden wheat, and children chase fireflies in warm evenings.
Autumn: Leaves turn yellow, then deepen into rich brown hues. The air crisps, and trees shed their foliage like confetti.
And once again, winter arrives. The sky wears a grey veil, and snowflakes dance, turning the world back to pristine white.
Isn’t it fascinating how each season brings its own palette of colors? {Fallen Leaf emoji}{Snowflake emoji}{Cherry Blossom emoji}

Bookworm wrote:

I found the email and downloaded it from the Afinity website so all is well.

When I installed ImpactPlus 5 a few weeks ago, the automatic check for updates on first run successfully found a patch installer on Serif’s servers, but I’m not aware of any full installer downloads that are still available direct from Serif. Even if they are, I wouldn’t expect any such installers to be available from the Affinity site.

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(1 replies, posted in History & Geography)

Original article:

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/18352 … use-london

Looking further into the topic, I came across several other interesting articles.

This one provides some detail about the task of oakum picking:

https://rovingcrafters.com/2016/02/01/p … ing-oakum/

And this one tells the story of a William who was the great-great-great-grandfather of the reporter who wrote about him:

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk … eal-683359

https://apnews.com/article/mona-lisa-pa … d74e95a211

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(5 replies, posted in PagePlus)

Have attached a plain ppp file, with the problem circle in it.

Your PPP file has failed to attach. Please use the Post reply link (rather than the ‘quick reply’ box at the bottom of this page) to afford you the opportunity to try again.

ó on the left, ò on the right:
https://render.myfonts.net/fonts/font_rend.php?id=12c0cfb78262691ec4c48403c4bb7a40&rt=óò&rs=240&w=1500&rbe=&sc=2&nie=true&fg=000000&bg=FFFFFF&ft=&nf=1

13

(5 replies, posted in PagePlus)

Cryptogram wrote:

I don't seem to be able to access the community any more. Can you help?

GB wrote:

Which community? The Serif Community is no more. Some of us have moved here.

My setting up of these forums was a direct consequence of Serif’s announcement that CommunityPlus was going to be closed.

William wrote:

Mystery of Plato’s final resting place solved after ‘bionic eye’ penetrates 2,000-year-old scroll

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/my … r-AA1nx8RN

William

Carbonized Herculaneum papyrus reveals Plato’s burial place

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(3 replies, posted in WebPlus)

APoster wrote:

Thanks. It was the "View" + "Tabs" option, instead of "Toolbars" I didn't remember, and the "Text Styles" menu that I was looking for.

You’re welcome. Thanks for the feedback!

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(4 replies, posted in WebPlus)

Welcome, Philip! Thanks for joining us here.

PhilipJGr wrote:

What's the problem, spontaneously occurring. When I upload SFTP I get an error message, see photo. When I upload with FTP I get a connection, but it keeps replying and no image appears on my site. You do see a frame, see also the photo.

Your first screenshot shows a ‘View Info from Server’ button. What further info do you get if you press it?

17

(4 replies, posted in MoviePlus)

The linked post is about importing unlock codes, not about reinstalling the program.

18

(3 replies, posted in WebPlus)

Unlike PagePlus, WebPlus doesn’t have a Paragraph tab. However, it does have a Text Styles tab where you can create and edit paragraph styles. If you’re unable to make that tab (or any other Studio tab) visible via the ‘View > Tabs’ submenu, choose the ‘Default Workspace’ option from the same submenu to reset the Studio tabs: the Text Styles tab is in the left studio by default.

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(4 replies, posted in WebPlus)

APoster wrote:

Will WYSIWYG Web Builder import WebPlus files?

No. WebPlus uses a proprietary format which only that program can understand (and the same is undoubtedly true of WYSIWYG Web Builder). However, it does have an Import HTML Page feature.

HTML import is basically the reverse of publish. The software takes a 'snapshot' of the layout (images and text) and tries to convert this to a (fixed/absolute) visual layout.

The main purpose of this tool is to import text and images. It was not designed to import complete layouts, because there is no way to convert HTML and scripts back to 'design elements.'

The original article in The Guardian:

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyl … x-tapestry

Please note the larger size and much greater sharpness of the image.

William wrote:

A link to another article on the topic.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl … music.html

William

That’s not really another article on the topic, it’s the original Daily Mail article whose content was scraped by MSN.

GB wrote:

The funeral of the Belfast flute maker Sam Murray

Renowned Belfast flute maker Sam Murray remembered as man of ‘profound creativity’

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(8 replies, posted in PagePlus)

Morris wrote:

I have got a new Windows 11 Laptop without a CD drive so I cannot use my PagePlus X7 CD to install the program.

Does anyone know how I can install the program on my new laptop.

Welcome, Morris! Please check your email.

William wrote:

by looking at the post that contains the download link for ViewHex.zip one can learn more about it

Your post to the Unicode mailing list links directly to Erwin’s explanatory post to the High-Logic Font Forums.

William wrote:

Well, the indirect link is to show the context.

William

In that case, why not say something like the following?

The validity of the use of tag characters in a private encoding is discussed at

https://corp.unicode.org/pipermail/unic … 10873.html

A zip archive of the ViewHex.exe program mentioned on that page can be downloaded from

https://forum.high-logic.com/download/file.php?id=189